Rental of apartment questions

[barbablanca]

He gives me sometimes a few hours to pay the invoice

What do you mean by “he gives me”?
Is it in the contract that you have to do it within few hours?
I pay my expenses in a similar way but the landlord has to provide me with the original invoice and all expenses are accumulated and paid once a month. Most of this is set in the contract but some just common sense.

I expect your landlord to agree certain schedule and rules that are accepted by both sides. It’s not that he is in somewhat advantageous position.

 

[Smurf]

What do you mean by “he gives me”?
Is it in the contract that you have to do it within few hours?
I pay my expenses in a similar way but the landlord has to provide me with the original invoice and all expenses are accumulated and paid once a month. Most of this is set in the contract but some just common sense.

I expect your landlord to agree certain schedule and rules that are accepted by both sides. It’s not that he is in somewhat advantageous position.

I give an e.g. he sends an invoice on a public holiday or Sunday 11pm and a few hours later is asking is it paid knowing banks are closed at this time. He then proceeds with Whatsapp to chase, then when I do pay the invoice on the Monday when the bank is open. He comes again at e.g. 4am on Tuesday with the next invoice and starts chasing...even started chasing at work...so the entire month is him doing this...he provides the invoices after the due dates and then tries to get me to pay his fines. Some of the invoices have 7 day payment turnaround so would not be possible to accumulate as then would be fines unless the owner pays them all and I reimburse once a month....which would make more sense. Now he has offered me to pay 1 million extra for expenses in advance with my rent...

Is it in the contract that you have to do it within few hours?
I pay my expenses in a similar way but the landlord has to provide me with the original invoice and all expenses are accumulated and paid once a month. Most of this is set in the contract but some just common sense.

I expect your landlord to agree certain schedule and rules that are accepted by both sides. It’s not that he is in somewhat advantageous position.

 

[Smurf]

Does anybody know who is responsible for paying the rounding (Redondeo) the owner or the tenant on the expenses invoices? Every month the building management are rounding up never down! and it is starting to accumulate.

 

[LuckyLuke]

Sounds a bit strange to me...perhaps the landlord is playing some games with corto plazos, or is ginning up late fees. We rent and it doesn't matter who pays the rent, as long as it's there. I usually collect from WU and deposit the cash directly in the account (which is an occasional pain in the rear, like all banking down here). The bank doesn't even ask my name, so it's technically from nobody. We send the comprobante via whatsapp. We have a sello contract and all. Adjustments every 6 months, just before the ley de alquileres changed. Adjustments marked to ICL. We round up to the nearest thousand as a courtesy and to avoid exact change at the bank. We pay utilities directly, since it's a house. They are all still in the name of the owner. Hope that helps

 

[Smurf]

Sounds a bit strange to me...perhaps the landlord is playing some games with corto plazos, or is ginning up late fees. We rent and it doesn't matter who pays the rent, as long as it's there. I usually collect from WU and deposit the cash directly in the account (which is an occasional pain in the rear, like all banking down here). The bank doesn't even ask my name, so it's technically from nobody. We send the comprobante via whatsapp. We have a sello contract and all. Adjustments every 6 months, just before the ley de alquileres changed. Adjustments marked to ICL. We round up to the nearest thousand as a courtesy and to avoid exact change at the bank. We pay utilities directly, since it's a house. They are all still in the name of the owner. Hope that helps

I guess a little easier with a house - the consorio here increased staff salaries by a whopping 65% and backdated it to Feb...and the owner gives every little bill in piecemeal so like a machine pulling tickets at the bank while the owner has set the payments up with direct debits. He has now increased the expenses by 50% in the space of 8 weeks...expenses nearly same as rent

 

[LuckyLuke]

I guess a little easier with a house - the consorio here increased staff salaries by a whopping 65% and backdated it to Feb...and the owner gives every little bill in piecemeal so like a machine pulling tickets at the bank while the owner has set the payments up with direct debits. He has now increased the expenses by 50% in the space of 8 weeks...expenses nearly same as rent

IMO this highlights an acute symptom here. That the ICL or IPC is in fact understating the true inflation. Not only that, the adjustments are quarterly, semi-annual or even annual depending on when the rental contract was drafted, allowing the rent to temporarily lag anything that can adjust monthly to the actual inflation on the street - such as the apartment expensas. Thus the expensas may eventually outpace the rent. It's a crap situation all around, but at least your rent may be artificially cheaper for the time being. A good test would be to see what a comparable unit goes for today on the market to see what your indexed "discount" may be. I know it's not much comfort.