Seeking Advice For The Move To B.a.

[Sockhopper]

No lawyer certified anywhere in the world would have to ask this question.

 

[steveinbsas]

Steve -

I'm not sure how seeking advice from "real" expats on a forum for expats about expat life is "trollish." Clearly I'm not the first person to have asked this question. I certainly would have hoped for a more supportive response particularly as I am a newcomer to this site (hence posting on the newcomer forum). Just as you moved abroad, and presumably sought the advice of others (as I'm sure all expats have done at some point), I too am looking for the same.

Based on what you wrote in your first post there was little reason to be "more supportive" in my reply.

If you really are a lawyer in the USA and you have a wife who has a job in NYC and a newborn son, I have already given you the best advice you are going to get from any of the members of this forum: Just stay where you are.

Even if you could get residency based upon a familiar relationship (one of your or one of your wife's parents were born in Argentina), the possibility of finding a job as a lawyer (without first spending a lot of time in a classroom) is virtually non-existent and jobs for your wife as an editor would not be much more plentiful. If neither of you speak Castellano very well, how would you deal with issues concerning your newborn son (especially his health)?

In addition to Deb (who was also Viviana) in the "wannabe expats" thread, there have been other trolls who have sought "advice" of the "real" expats here. My second favorite (and perhaps the most absurd) was a thread by a couple from Chicago with nine children, seven of whom were adults.

PS: When I suggested to use the advance search for "wannabe expat" I unintentionally omitted the "s" from the word expats. Adding the "s" will generate even more results.

 

[BaltRochGirl]

Yeah, it's hard for us to believe that an attorney and an editor, apparently from NYC, with a newborn baby, would be planning to move to Argentina - with at least one of those two (it wasn't specified if one or both would search for a job) looking to find a job, here in the land of bad economy and in a time of upheaval politics. Both professions require some intelligence, at least for a reasonably successful stature within those professions.

Someone who is seriously considering a move and has done anything more than say, as idle chat, "I wonder what it would be like to move to Argentina" would already know that:

1. Salaries are pretty dismal here compared to the US
   
2. Jobs on this level are not plentiful, to put it mildly
   
3. Law here is completely different from law there and you wouldn't even be able to practice until you got trained up and certified (whatever that entails, but I can't believe it's simple and fast)
   
4. You'd have to get residency first before you could work, or get sponsored by an employer (see 2 & 3)
   
5. Much more but I can't be bothered to write more.

If you were seriously thinking about moving here, I'd think you'd be asking for more specifics about these things, not asking for general advice about moving a family here.

A relatively quick perusal of the threads on the forum should give to the reader a general feeling among the expats here of the troubles and travails many of us have been through, and are still experiencing, related to the last 12 years of Cristina and most specifically the last 4-5 years. It should give a pretty quick answer as to how easy it's going to be to do things like find a job, one that pays well, open a bank account, find a way to qualify for residency or getting citizenship, find a way to live in a decent apartment for more than a couple of months at a time without actually owning property (or knowing someone well enough that they put their property up as a guarantee for your rental contract) etc.

Specific questions about specific areas make sense, but such general statements and queries from professionals don't make sense.

Sorry if we're a little skeptical. If you're sincere, maybe you can explain a little more about your situation and what you're thinking.

Yes, as in other countries lawyers are overworked in Argentina but the pay does not compare, if you're coming from a NYC salary you are going to be shocked by the starting offers once you fulfill all the requirements to practice law in Argentina, all in Spanish of course.

Unless you have a compelling reason to make the change most people wouldn't recommend it.

 

[Ceviche]

you are going to be shocked by the starting offers once you fulfill all the requirements .

If it was so easy to setlle down in Argentina and still earn NY salaries..wow..the city would be half filled with Americans,

 

[mmoon]

I used to take the time to answer the repetitive questions of these brand new members who just showed up on this site and wanted everyone to throw down the Welcome map and type them up a whole compilation of the steps they need to take to get a job/learn Spanish/get residency/find love/eat amazing steak/learn tango/retire/buy a car/open an account/buy an apartment/find themselves in Argentina, but yes it would be nice if they ever did one second of their own research first (beginning with, but not limited to, the handy search function of this very site), and then ask some thoughtful and meaningful questions that show the seriousness of their intentions.
If they can't do at least that, they will never move and not survive in Argentina!

 

[EJLarson]

I used to take the time to answer the repetitive questions of these brand new members who just showed up on this site and wanted everyone to throw down the Welcome map and type them up a whole compilation of the steps they need to take to get a job/learn Spanish/get residency/find love/eat amazing steak/learn tango/retire/buy a car/open an account/buy an apartment/find themselves in Argentina, but yes it would be nice if they ever did one second of their own research first (beginning with, but not limited to, the handy search function of this very site), and then ask some thoughtful and meaningful questions that show the seriousness of their intentions.
If they can't do at least that, they will never move and not survive in Argentina!

I've been wrong many times in life, and this may well be another one, but this smells "troll" to high heaven. A practicing attorney with an employed wife and newborn child talking about just pulling up roots and moving to Algeria, no! Andorra, no! Argentina! All without having the first clue about the country, its economics and conditions?

It's impossible, at least for me, to understand what satisfaction anyone could get out of this kind of trolling, but we have lots of proof on this forum that it must be something, because it happens frequently. Wonder what kind of car this guy drives? Is he planning on bringing it along?

 

[semigoodlookin]

Don't come would be my advice.