Should Argentina Become A Constitutional Monarchy?

[pauper]

Philosopher and long time Canadian resident Mario Bunge in a public talk with neuroscientist Facundo Manes has lamented the fact that Argentina did not copy the British parliamentary system and opted for the 'less democratic' US model.

Canadá es un país conocido por ser aburrido. No se esperan golpes de Estado, ni serían posibles. La gente es más tranquila y tenemos un sistema parlamentarista no presidencialista como la Argentina, que se presta a la dictadura. Desgraciadamente los argentinos, lo mismo que los demás latinoamericanos y los africanos, copiaron la constitución norteamericana en lugar de copiar la inglesa, que es mucho más democrática, porque el gobierno está siendo examinado diariamente durante el período de sesiones. Hay que rendir cuentas. Aquí nadie rinde cuentas de nada

Should Argentina Become a Constitutional Monarchy?
Would it have been better off imitating the British parliamentary system?

 

[Rich One]

This is an oxymoron we already have a Monarch HRH Cristina Margareta from the House of Kirchener of Holy Cross.

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[pauper]

Perhaps, but is it constitutional?
and what is her polo game like?

 

[mc kenna]

For long time residents here, we know that the constitution is optional....... sometimes yes ,sometimes no.....it ain't like the gov has to worry about that..... i just hope for polo para todos
Or option b would be, send the brave Argentine commandos to...... dunno.. Holland? and declare war then wait for the dutch to come here to invade,and without firing a round, surrender...... i'm sure the Dutch can do something better with this land than the last.. say..60 years worth of military and civilian governments this fine country had

 

[ARbound]

I'll agree with the boring part, that's for sure. All my friends from Argentina/other countries
has said "It's developed/nice/etc, but I'd die of boredom here."

Now, to the main point:

Living in Canada I can assure you that a US style system is more democratic.

Here's why:

Our actual Head of State and Practical Head of State are not really elected.

Queen Elizabeth 2nd (Needs no explaining) and Stephen Harper, Prime Minister.

Members of the Conservative Party of Canada only are the ones that actually voted
for Stephen Harper, and technically the people in his riding in Alberta, which means
more people vote/will vote for Mayor of Toronto this month than him. We can't directly
elect either Head of State.

This is an issue because I like my member of parliament but hate the leader of her
party, and don't wish for him to become Prime Minister. I would like to split my vote
and only vote for MP and just not vote for Prime Minister, but I can't. In the United States,
my family's state, I supported this, Warren for Senate, Stein for President.

This is the same issue Provincially. Again, love my Member of Provincial Parliament, hate the
Provincial leader, luckily the one I prefered became Premier (Governor).

The Senate in Canada is appointed, crony filled, WASPy and 100 year old plus, and it's a lifetime
appointment.

Parliamentarism occurs in the form of hardcore whipping (don't get too excited, Mr. Grey is not
present for this) meaning "Blue Dog Democrats" or "Rockefeller Republicans" don't exist, and if
you dare buck the party line you're punished, backbenched/stipped of status/etc.

Lastly, Supreme Court Rulings here are often ignored by the government and there is no system
of checks and balances meaning your party wins 1 election you can railroad whatever hardcore
ideological BS you want for 4 years straight.

Also, Canada doesn't have term limits

 

[camino no tomado]

I'm with Professor Bunge. The hazards of too much democracy are readily apparent in most republican states.

 

[Gringoboy]

As Mc Kenna says, since we already have a dynastic monarchy, it's a moot point.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

If Argentina would have some clauses in the constition ensuring independence of the judiciary, central bank and state media (not referring to Clarin which is a drawn out monopoly case) we could have something resembling a stable democracy.

Not sure Liz's corgi farm and self destructive clan of greek-german party boys would have much to do with sorting that mess out.

 

[camberiu]

Unlike Brazil, Argentina has no monarchic tradition. It makes no sense to implement a monarchy here. Brazil is the only country in LATAM where the restoration of the constitutional monarchy would not only make sense, but also would be the legitimate thing to do.

Brazil's true and legitimate flag.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

Because...?