Sourdough

The only decent sourdough I've found here...after many tries is from a french bakery chain called L' Epi bulongerie. They have several medium sour sourdoughs. I looked for a solid year before finding them
 
There is difference. Flavor complexity. The lactic acid bacteria and yeast ratio. Sourdough is fermented differently and the taste is completely different. It's not a a difference of language, but thanks.
Very true Masa madre and Sourdough are NOT the same . However the closest to it can be found at Atelier Force, not Sour enough...
The Medis Lunas/Croissants at this place are superb exuding butter a must try mille feuille/Puff/Milhojas Hojaldrado

 
Very true Masa madre and Sourdough are NOT the same . However the closest to it can be found at Atelier Force, not Sour enough...
The Medis Lunas/Croissants at this place are superb exuding butter a must try mille feuille/Puff/Milhojas Hojaldrado
I am wondering what some people here in this thread might call naturally fermented bread which does not use added yeast, but instead only begins with a starter created with only Flour and Water. The entire rest of the English speaking world calls that Sourdough. There is *no other word* Regardless of the flavor profile, sour or not, that is what it is called. Every cookbook, or any mention on the internet or newspaper food sections. Please educate me, and tell me the English word you think is used.

And Mass Madre is the same exact process and so is the exact translation.
 
I am wondering what some people here in this thread might call naturally fermented bread which does not use added yeast, but instead only begins with a starter created with only Flour and Water. The entire rest of the English speaking world calls that Sourdough. There is *no other word* Regardless of the flavor profile, sour or not, that is what it is called. Every cookbook, or any mention on the internet or newspaper food sections. Please educate me, and tell me the English word you think is used.

And Mass Madre is the same exact process and so is the exact translation.
I once tried arguing, as a native English speaker, with someone from Spain that a product called miel de palma (palm syrup) can't possibly be the right Spanish word because miel/honey only comes from bees and miel de palma didn't come from bees.

To be clear: I was wrong, and so are several people on this thread (especially the OP).

@carride, you are absolutely correct that masa madre is the same as sourdough, and if people don't like the masa madre breads they are finding in BA they will either have to keep up their searching, make their own, or find peace with the variety of flavors in the world.

(Incidentally, this was written while eating some very tasty pan de masa madre from Nomada Pan, which perfectly satisfies the tastes of this former Bay Area resident)
 
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