Subway fares go up 127% percent tomorrow

[Aleina Dee]

The tickets you could buy yesterday were the paper ones called subte pass and they will be valid "indefinitely" for now.

Until the 12th when you use the blue plastic SUBE card they will only deduct 1.10. I assume it is to adjust their system to the new tariffs.

Also this morning between the hours of 8 and 10 as a protest measure the staff let the passengers pass through the turnstiles without paying.The same will repeat tonight.

 

[dennisr]

Watching this Subte thing unfold and how Macri is portrayed as the bad guy. What a coup by the Black Widow.

 

[dr__dawggy]

For sure to Macri's and his gang pockets.

Lining one's pockets at public expense is a time honored Argentine tradition. Can you think of a single prominent official who has not enriched their own wealth through their "service?"

 

[surfing]

Buses will also rise to $2 in the next week or so.

 

[Sleuth]

As if you couldn't see this one coming...

Cheap Subte Tickets Sold Online

 

[what wave]

I don't mind paying more, as long as there's a good reason. I'd happily pay 10 pesos per subway journey if:

* The subways were clean (ever change at 9 de Julio? Gross!).
* The lines were being extended.

I think you have to choose between wanting something cheap and wanting something good. Very cheap subsidized transport is good as it makes it accessible to pretty much everyone, but at these prices there will never be any left over to improve existing infrastructure.

 

[dennisr]

Single-ride public transportation prices in 80 tourist cities
*all prices converted into US dollars in mid-November, 2010
Price ranges reflect shortest to longest rides in most cities. Tourists are most likely to pay the lowest price.
Caracas, Venezuela (metro, bus) $0.12 – $0.28
Cairo, Egypt (metro) $0.17
Delhi, India (metro) $0.18 – $0.66
La Paz, Bolivia (bus) $0.19 – $0.50
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (light rail, bus) $0.22 – $0.76
Marrakech, Morocco (bus) $0.24 – $0.61
Mexico City, Mexico (metro) $0.24
Panama City, Panama (bus) $0.25
Quito, Ecuador (bus) $0.25 – $0.35
Hong Kong, China (tram, ferry) $0.26 – $0.39
Buenos Aires, Argentina (bus, subway) $0.28 – $0.32
Beijing, China (subway) $0.30
Dakar, Senegal (bus) $0.31
Lima, Peru (bus) $0.36 – $0.64
Auckland, New Zealand (bus, train) $0.38 – $1.38
Macau, China (bus) $0.41 – $0.83
Shanghai, China (metro) $0.45 – $1.35
Cancun, Mexico (bus) $0.49
Taipei, Taiwan (metro, bus) $0.49 – $2.14
Bangkok, Thailand (skytrain, subway) $0.50 – $1.34
Singapore, Singapore (subway, light rail) $0.61 – $1.53
St. Petersburg, Russia (tram, bus, metro) $0.61 – $0.71
Cartagena, Colombia (bus) $0.64 – $0.80
Dubai, UAE (metro) $0.68 – $2.18
Montevideo, Uruguay (bus) $0.76
Sofia, Bulgaria (tram, bus, metro) $0.80
Phuket, Thailand (bus) $0.83, $1.17
Moscow, Russia (metro) $0.84
Krakow, Poland (bus, tram) $0.86
Seoul, South Korea (subway, bus) $0.89 – $1.77
Prague, Czech Republic (tram, bus, metro) $1.00 – $1.44
Santiago, Chile (metro, bus) $1.00 – $1.20
Istanbul, Turkey (tram, bus, metro, ferry) $1.03
Cape Town, South Africa (bus) $1.14
Lisbon, Portugal (tram, bus, metro) $1.16 – $3.97
New Orleans, USA (tram, bus) $1.25 – $1.50
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (metro, bus) $1.28 – $1.74
Budapest, Hungary (tram, bus, metro) $1.28 – $2.32
Athens, Greece (tram, bus, metro) $1.37
Madrid, Spain (metro, bus) $1.37
Monaco, Monaco (bus) $1.37
Rome, Italy (tram, bus, metro) $1.37
Tallinn, Estonia (bus, tram, trolley) $1.39 – $1.74
Dubrovnik, Croatia (bus) $1.48 – $1.85
Los Angeles, USA (bus, metro) $1.50
Chicago, USA (metro, bus) $1.54 - $1.73
Dublin, Ireland (tram, bus) $1.58 – $2.47
Nice, France (bus) $1.58
Tel Aviv, Israel (bus) $1.58
Washington DC, USA (metro) $1.60 – $5.00
Bruges, Belgium (bus) $1.64 - $2.74
Florence, Italy (bus) $1.64
Berlin, Germany (tram, bus, metro) $1.78 – $2.88
Zagreb, Croatia (bus, tram, train) $1.85
Barcelona, Spain (tram, bus, metro) $1.92
Tokyo, Japan (metro) $1.93 – $2.29
Edinburgh, Scotland (bus) $1.94
Sydney, Australia (metro, bus) $1.96 – $3.24
San Francisco, USA (tram, bus, metro) $2.00
Miami, USA (bus) $2.00
Honolulu, USA (bus) $2.25
New York City, USA (subway, bus) $2.25
Brussels, Belgium (metro, bus) $2.33 – $2.74
Paris, France (metro) $2.33
Galway, Ireland (bus) $2.47
Helsinki, Finland (tram, bus, metro) $2.47 – $3.42
Vancouver, Canada (skytrain, bus) $2.48
Reykjavik, Iceland (bus) $2.50
Stockholm, Sweden (tram, bus, metro) $2.61 – $8.70
Montreal, Canada (metro, bus) $2.72
London, England (tube, bus, tram: using Oystercard) $2.90 – $9.68
Toronto, Canada (subway, streetcar, bus) $2.97
Vienna, Austria (subway, tram, bus) $3.01
Munich, Germany (tram, bus, metro, subway) $3.29 – $6.58
Amsterdam, Netherlands (tram, bus, metro) $3.56
Melbourne, Australia (tram, bus) $3.63
Zurich, Switzerland (bus, tram, train) $4.08
Copenhagen, Denmark (metro, bus) $4.20
Oslo, Norway (tram, bus, metro, ferry) $4.34 – $6.68
Venice, Italy (water bus) $8.90

 

[elhombresinnombre]

I think that there's a difference between what the relatively affluent, mainly ex-pat readers and writers to this forum would like, and what a very large number of the rest of the world actually need. There's a cadre of workers who are just keeping their heads above water by living in the province and travelling into the city to work; there's another cadre who work at two or three or more part time jobs each day and travel distances across town between each job. These people, I estimate, are going to be down at least AR$200 per month and coping is going to be a real struggle. The work pattern for many has come about precisely because of available cheap public transport. Knowing how adaptable and resourceful is the nature of Argentine people, I'm sure that a 'new normal' for this kind of working will emerge before long but I don't think we should underestimate the struggle this is going to cause for many until that happens.

 

[El chabon]

Lining one's pockets at public expense is a time honored Argentine tradition. Can you think of a single prominent official who has not enriched their own wealth through their "service?"

Alfonsin sr.