Yes Hamas is a terrorist organization which I do not support. I have already made that clear. However you are, like some others in this thread, a hypocrite when you accuse them of being terrorists and at the same time applaud Israel when they carry out terrorist attacks.
Where is your sense of moral equivalence? Are you really arguing that assassinating an active participant in a terrorist organization, one who has conspired to bomb civilians on public buses and in coffee shops, is morally equal to placing the bombs in the buses and coffee shops in order to kill the civilians in the first place? That is patently absurd to anyone with any semblance of basic human ethics. You know, at some point reason has to declare one person's argument as simply nonsensical and unethical. There is no mathematical proof of the absurdity of some arguments other than the application of human values. Hopefully people will agree your argument is absurd and in a very real way, inhumane.
And Ahmaddinejad of Iran never said that Israel should be wiped off the map, what he said was that Zionism should be wiped off the map. That's just another Zionist lie.
Ahmaddinejadd has publicly declared that the state of Israel should be wiped off the map. See http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html reporting of his speech at a "World Without Zionism" conference on Oct 26, 2005. In it he reiterates and concurs with the same prior statement uttered by that pillar of rational humanist values, Ayatollah Khomeini. Zionist lie? It wasn't the Zionists who translated his words that way. It was the official Iranian news agency. After the quote became sensationalized in the western press, the Iranian state news agency that originally published this translation tried to back off by offering a new interpretation - something to the effect that the Israeli state would collapse. Others students of Farsi have interpreted his words in various ways. The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) translated the phrase to be the state of Israel should "be eliminated from the pages of history." See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
for a lengthy discussion of the hullaballoo surrounding the exact meaning of his words as well as a seemingly well documented history of his inflammatory anti-Jewish, anti-Israel, holocaust-denying statements. Ahmaddinejadd's own offical web site reports that around June 3, 2008 he said:
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Monday "that the Zionist Regime of Israel faces a deadend and will under God's grace be wiped off the map." http://www.president.ir/en/?ArtID=10114
Now you can parse the man's numerous hateful words however you like. It boils down to this. The President of Iran is a jew-hating, Israel-hating demagogue who favors the elimination of the state of Israel. In its simplest form today Zionism is the affirmation and support for the democratic state of Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people. If you call for wiping out Zionism, it is indistinguishable from calling for wiping the state of Israel off the map. Hopefully, the international community will sanction Iran for its belligerent and bellicose violations of international law re nuclear armaments and eventually the nut case who is Pres of Iran will be removed from power. He is a dangerous person.
And Zionism is based on Judaism. And Jews think they are the chosen people. Same same but different.
Frankly, I can only guess at your meaning. Zionism is a movement, political in nature with some philosophical connection to biblical texts that refer to God delivering Moses's people into a land of their own. Judism is a religion. I do agree that Jewish texts claim that the Jews are God's chosen people, but what does this have to do with the matters under discussion? Are you trying to equate the Jewish concept of being the chosen people with the fundamnetal Islamic belief that Islam is the only true religion? That is a false comparison.
Jews do not endeavor to convert non-Jews by force. They pretty much do the opposite and tend to make it difficult to convert to Judaism. Jews do not try to subjugate people of other religions and require them to pay the jizziah and live as second class citizens as the Koran commands its believers to do. Jews do not punish blasphemy with death fatwas ala Salamon Rushdie. They do not prescribe death for one who leaves the faith as does Sharia law. Recall the death sentence handed out to a Christian convert in an Afghanistan court few years back? It caused a temporary scandal in the west inasmuch the US was providing so much financial support to the Afghanis. It was hard to reconcile our support for a government that had this kind of law. The condemned man's sentence was quickly reversed and the affair was swept under the carpet to avoid inflaming western sensibilities.
And Israel doesn't violate the Geneva Conventiom? Again you are being a hypocrite.
Stop calling me names and give proof of your charges. This violation of the rules of war business is a more complicated issue than most people realize. The international rules of war almost all ultimately devolve into a consideration of what is "reasonable" whether in reaction to enemy offensives, return of fire, or the taking of innocent civilian lives. It can very easily be argued, for example, that the Israelis did not violate international (including Geneva) rules of war when shelling a school or mosque that was used by the adversary as a launching site for rockets into Israel. Moreover, the law is not so naive as to allow the use of human shields with impunity. Of course, it makes for great press when one side which doesn't value human life quite the same as most civilizations uses human shields and thereby coaxes the other side into taking the risk of (reasonably) killing enemy non-combatants. What is beyond dispute is that firing rockets into civilian populations as did Hamas is a violation of international law. My point is that the case against the Israelis is based upon application of reasonableness to complex fact situations while that of the Hamas is really quite clear. The Goldstone report was ridiculously simple minded in its conclusions and findings.
Not sure what you mean they can relocate any time they want. And should the rest of the Palestinians suffer because of a few extremists? I think if there was a serious will for peace from Israel, the Palestinians would support it. The problem is that they don't offer peace, they offer death and destruction.
The Palestinians are Muslims. Muslims do not want peace with the Jews. Period. That is an immutable fact of life. Your shrill anti Israel arguments are without a sound rational basis. You have no facts to buttress your arguments, only loud unsupported cries of evil doing. It is unconvincing to people with any sense of ethics just as is your absurd moral equivalance of the assassinationn a bomb planting terrorist with the slaughter of a bus full of civilians.
Yup, pretty clear. You seem to be fond of death. Just a small comment though; the people who attacked you on 9/11 was the U.S government and Mossad. The very same people you support. Also, try reading about how the Israelis attacked USS Liberty:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Those are your very good friends. Also ask yourself; what has Israel ever done for the U.S except for killing your servicemen, civilians and taking your military and economical aid?
