Visa/DNI questions

[Hellek]

You should be fine. I for my part spent about 9 months here (now in my 10th and last month), exiting the country within 90-day terms to avoid overstaying what the passport stamp says (turista 90 dias). The law says a little more than the passport stamp (not to stay more than 180days/year or something alike), never ran into any problems though. There are mixed opinions on whether it is better to leave and return every <90 days, or "overstay" and pay a fine on exiting. I understand that you, having a family, have an extra desire for security.

There is a visa category "academic"

i) Académicos: para quienes ingresen al país en virtud de acuerdos académicos celebrados entre
instituciones de educación superior en áreas especializadas, bajo la responsabilidad del centro
superior contratante. Su vigencia será por el término de hasta un (1) año, prorrogable por idéntico
período cada uno, con autorización de entradas y salidas múltiples;

From http://www.migraciones.gov.ar/pdf_varios/residencias/ley_25871.pdf

You would need some expert help to do that stuff though, find out if and how you can get visa for the rest of your family on base of that law, etc.
I don't think there is any way around that if you want a visa.

Nevertheless, from what I understood, you are a professor and will work in a university. You should get to know a lot of people that way. Which can help a lot in this country. With some luck you get to know somebody who knows somebody who can resolve your visa issues within the 180 days (2x90) that a tourist can legally stay. Just to have some extra security. Keep in mind that for taxation reasons a DNI is not entirely benificial, it also bears new responsibilities which tourists don't have.

 

[steveinbsas]

That feels weird to me, but the hassle and expense of a temporary visa is pretty unappealing.

When you were offered the opportunity to teach for a year in BA was there no mention of a requirement for a temporary resident visa? I imagine others have come here "on sabbatical" to teach and were paid in their home country, but I don't remember anyone asking about this in the four years I have been a member here.

If you don't have a DNI and are not being paid in Argentina you would definitely be under the radar. I suggest you ask about this at the institution where you will be teaching. I believe that they are the ones who would have to "sponsor" an academic visa for you, but they might be "surprised" if you ask them to do it since they aren't paying you (just a hunch).

Being in Argentina with an expired tourist visa is not a serious offense. You would only pay a $300 peso fee per person when you leave. If you don't have temporary residency you will also have pay the $140 USD entry fee (per person). If you do leave the country every 90 days (three times), you won't have to pay the overstay fee. After the first trip to Colonia, however, you might decide it's better to pay when you leave.

Then again, you might welcome the day trip away from the city if the weather is nice enough for a pleasant boat ride.

The deciding factor might simply be whether or not your kids need to have DNIs to be enrolled in school.

 

[citygirl]

I am also confused. If your home university arranged this, I would assume they would be assisting you with getting a visa as well.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

I agree with Steven about that no lawyer is needed for applying for a residence.

You shouldn´t worry about what to say when you arrive, we have the openest immigration policy in the world and you can change your legal status anytime no question ask.

That´s why you can apply for residence being here.

Forget about rentista, if he is working for UBA then he should apply for this:
[FONT=&quot]i) Académicos: para quienes ingresen al país en virtud de acuerdos académicos celebrados entre instituciones de educación superior en áreas especializadas, bajo la responsabilidad del centro superior contratante. Su vigencia será por el término de hasta un (1) año, prorrogable por idéntico período cada uno, con autorización de entradas y salidas múltiples;

About children, schools, [/FONT]medical insurance, etc, you can do everything with your passport.

At the DGM website you can find all the info you need and you can apply at the Argentinian consulate.

Regards

 

[BAwithkids]

Earlier you mentioned the visa rentista, but a "work" visa is probably the route to go. The visa rentista requires an investment income of $2000 per month.

There's more information (in Spanish) on the migraciones website, but here are the basics in English from Just Landed:

http://www.justlanded.com/english/Argentina/Argentina-Guide/Visas-Permits/Temporary-Residence-Visa

Thanks for the link. My understanding was that I had to be paid by an Argentine company/organizations to get a work visa, but maybe I can do it unpaid... My salary would cover $2000/month for me, but not $2000 each for all four members of my family. Hopefully, the consulate can help me sort this out.

 

[BAwithkids]

Thanks for all the helpful comments - I'll definitely post back when I decide what to do (and let you know how whatever process went). I'm waiting to contact the university that's invited me to be there until I know for absolute certain I'm going (there's a slight possibility that I would be moving institutions, which would scuttle the whole Argentina plan, but I'll know for sure in the next couple weeks). The people at the university seem well-connected, so I'm hoping that also smooths any bumps. I really appreciate all the help from everyone, including the great links!

 

[steveinbsas]

Thanks for the link. My understanding was that I had to be paid by an Argentine company/organizations to get a work visa, but maybe I can do it unpaid... My salary would cover $2000/month for me, but not $2000 each for all four members of my family. Hopefully, the consulate can help me sort this out.

Although your foreign "salary" may not be accepted ay migraciones for a work (or rentista) visa, if you are granted some type of temporary visa (possibly academic), your children and husband might be considered as your dependents, meaning your income alone would be sufficient to get temporary residency f(and DNIs) or the entire family. The biggest "catch" seems to be that you aren't being paid in Argentina for working in Argentina.

I just noted that ARCA is stating a higher figure as a requisite for the visa rentista than any others I've seen: $8,500 pesos/$2200 dollars per month.

 

[verito]

schools require kids to have a dni or a very clear status of residency, i dont think they will enrol them on a visitor's visa. check with school first. once you are here, you can getn specialist 'gestores' (the school might recommend one), this is an intermediary that will help you sort all burocracy and get the documents fast, a classic figure of argentine society... (deliberate extreme burocracy creates of lot of jobs for intermediaires), but thats the way it goes here. its just a different system. if you go to the international american school in BA they help you with everything. good luck!

 

[BAwithkids]

Thanks everyone. I'm hoping this "academic" visa works out - we're definitely coming (finally got the official word), so I'm going to try to reach the NYC consulate tomorrow and start sorting it out. It's still possible we won't do the visa, depending on what the consulate says... The professor sponsoring my visit didn't seem to think the university would be able to be of much help, but I'll push on them if I need to (they're doing other nice things for me, so I don't want to push too hard!).