Who has gotten citizenship in Argentina and your original citizenship and nationality is the USA?

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So, if you have done this what does you Argentine dni say under nationality? Does it now say Estadounidense or does it say Argentina? Also, what does your Argentine passport now say under nationality?
Normally, depending on the country, nationality is usually the place you were born and so it doesn't change. However, in Argentina I have seen the nationality change on the dni to Argentina when a person becomes a citizen...odd actually...but if it's true I'd be thrilled!
 
Front has this: 1734233348606.png

Back says "LUGAR DE NACIMIENTO: <CITY>,ESTADOS UNIDOS"

where <CITY> is the city you were born in. And below that on the back it says, "NATURALIZADO EL: 18 JUN 2020"
 
Thanks. And on your passport there is only one spot. Which one does it say?
My first Argentine passport said "Lugar de nacimiento: Estados Unidos". My current Argentine passport says "Lugar de nacimiento: USA".
Both passports say "Nacionalidad: Argentina".

There is no distinction on the passport as to whether a citizen/national is natural born, born outside Argentina to Argentine native parents, or naturalized (which are the three classes of Argentine citizenship).
 
So, if you have done this what does you Argentine dni say under nationality? Does it now say Estadounidense or does it say Argentina? Also, what does your Argentine passport now say under nationality?
Normally, depending on the country, nationality is usually the place you were born and so it doesn't change. However, in Argentina I have seen the nationality change on the dni to Argentina when a person becomes a citizen...odd actually...but if it's true I'd be thrilled!
You are mistaken in that you are confusing Nationality with Place of Birth.
On the front of the Argentine citizen DNI it says "Nacionalidad: Argentina" and citizens DNI start with different numbers than foreigners DNI.
On the reverse of the Argentine citizen DNI place of birth is listed and also the distinction is added for citizens born to native Argentine parents outside the country and to naturalized Citizens (including date of their naturalization).
Citizens DNI born to native Argentines outside the country who acquired another citizenship at birth( Argentino por opcion) begin with 18
Naturalized citizen DNI begin with 19

My hunch is that the OP is asking these details because he is thinking of opening financial accounts and/or visiting countries that are not friendly to USA citizens but have no issues with Argentines (Russia, Iran, etc).
The bank officer will see the USA as place of birth and will likely ask for supporting documentation showing that you are not currently a USA citizen.
 
You are mistaken in that you are confusing Nationality with Place of Birth.
On the front of the Argentine citizen DNI it says "Nacionalidad: Argentina" and citizens DNI start with different numbers than foreigners DNI.
On the reverse of the Argentine citizen DNI place of birth is listed and also the distinction is added for citizens born to native Argentine parents outside the country and to naturalized Citizens (including date of their naturalization).
Citizens DNI born to native Argentines outside the country who acquired another citizenship at birth( Argentino por opcion) begin with 18
Naturalized citizen DNI begin with 19

My hunch is that the OP is asking these details because he is thinking of opening financial accounts and/or visiting countries that are not friendly to USA citizens but have no issues with Argentines (Russia, Iran, etc).
The bank officer will see the USA as place of birth and will likely ask for supporting documentation showing that you are not currently a USA citizen.
First, thanks for the information...however, I am not confused about the difference between citizenship and nationality. Each country defines citizenship and nationality differently and my questions were essentially trying to understand how Argentina views them. Yes, how the documents read (dni and passport). Argentina has a very liberal view on nationality and the fact they change my nationality to Argentina is a slight plus in my case. For the passport It would, as you state, make it impossible, on the surface, to know if I was born in the USA to Argentine parents or was naturalized. Only if someone knows the number system can they tell if you were naturalized due to the dni being on the passport. By the way, the number system like the social security number in the USA is not only 18 or 19...80-90 are used for naturalized citizens. Also, like with the USA number system here they are reused from deceased people. Native Argentines have numbers in the 40's as well.
Banks are not an issue in the slightest because I have accounts in 7 countries, already and many more will just confuse me at some point, hahaha.
 
So, if you have done this what does you Argentine dni say under nationality? Does it now say Estadounidense or does it say Argentina? Also, what does your Argentine passport now say under nationality?
Normally, depending on the country, nationality is usually the place you were born and so it doesn't change. However, in Argentina I have seen the nationality change on the dni to Argentina when a person becomes a citizen...odd actually...but if it's true I'd be thrilled!
The distinction between born in Argentina (indigenous) and naturalized is only for the Presidency who must be born here and military conscription where naturalized have a 10 years exception.
For a racial State, the Austrian dictator who become German Canciller explains, nationality means race and you cannot change your race.
As soon as Argentina is not a racist State, you can change nationality when you get citizenship because the citizenship letter is a birth certificate, it is like you were born in Argentina, because the natural state of human beings is freedom, for this reason it used to be called “letter of freedom”.
Argentine’s citizenship law is very old, for this reason is a manumission act from slavery and serfdom. If you pay taxes no matter where your address is, you are not free, you are a serf.
 
The distinction between born in Argentina (indigenous) and naturalized is only for the Presidency who must be born here and military conscription where naturalized have a 10 years exception.
For a racial State, the Austrian dictator who become German Canciller explains, nationality means race and you cannot change your race.
As soon as Argentina is not a racist State, you can change nationality when you get citizenship because the citizenship letter is a birth certificate, it is like you were born in Argentina, because the natural state of human beings is freedom, for this reason it used to be called “letter of freedom”.
Argentine’s citizenship law is very old, for this reason is a manumission act from slavery and serfdom. If you pay taxes no matter where your address is, you are not free, you are a serf.
Hahahaha 🤣 that certainly gives me everything I need to know, lol.
 
The distinction between born in Argentina (indigenous) and naturalized is only for the Presidency who must be born here and military conscription where naturalized have a 10 years exception.
This is not a true as there are additional restrictions placed upon Naturalized Argentine citizens.

For example children born outside Argentina to naturalized Argentine citizens do NOT have a right to Argentine citizenship, whereas children born outside Argentina to native Argentine or Argentines born outside Argentina to native Argentine parents (Argentinos por opcion) ARE automatically entitled to Argentine citizenship.

Most/many police and security forces jobs are only open to native Argentines or Argentines born outside Argentina to native born parents.

Also according to this document, Naturalized Argentines do not acquire political rights until after having been a citizen for five years.
From my own experience, I was not automatically added to the voter rolls until having completed more than five years of acquired citizenship.
 
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This is not a true as there are additional restrictions placed upon Naturalized Argentine citizens.

For example children born outside Argentina to naturalized Argentine citizens do NOT have a right to Argentine citizenship, whereas children born outside Argentina to native Argentine or Argentines born outside Argentina to native Argentine parents (Argentinos por opcion) ARE automatically entitled to Argentine citizenship.

Most/many police and security forces jobs are only open to native Argentines or Argentines born outside Argentina to native born parents.

Also according to this document, Naturalized Argentines do not acquire political rights until after having been a citizen for five years.
From my own experience, I was not automatically added to the voter rolls until having completed more than five years of acquired citizenship.
1. Welcome to Federal Law.
2. Regarding children, the executive power enforces the law and Courts interpret it. I won many cases and recently I acted as an expert in citizenship law before the Federal Court of Mar del Plata in a prominent case where it was declared that the distinction between natives and naturalized persons is a category suspected of discrimination.
3. You are talking about province law that SC declared unconstitutional several times.
4. You quote an abolished Constitution That source is always imprecise.
 
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