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    Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

    Iznogud, I am not going to rehash the same thing over and over again: 1) You have no valid, empirical basis from which to prove a negative - that people do not report crime. I don't care if you personally know 20 people that have not. The next 200 people I meet might know that people do...
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    Citygirl, I am using "empirical data" as in "fact", rather than "perception" garnered from personal stimuli - the bastion of the closed minded, who do not want to learn beyond what they already think they see and know. Proving that distinction, I at least offer the objective observation of...
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    Iznogud, Relative to observations that the Recoleta has become less safe, agreed. Relative to the already stated comments about, I am packing my bags and heading to "X", I merely commented that "X" might be the fire, to BA's/Recoleta's frying pan. Then...boom...all this...lol. So, if you...
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    El Queso, I took the accounts as those personally witnessed by you. If I had encountered the same, BA or anywhere, I certainly would question my continued ability to relate to, or rely on empirical data. I am a big believer in never say "never". I have already conceded, way early in this...
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    Iznogud, What you describe is unfortunate. Street crime and state crimes, while both crimes, are not in the same statistical model. Argentina has had some dark periods with the latter, such as the Junta years. However, keep in mind, the USA has had some dark periods, such as the stain of...
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    nicoenarg, Precisely, I do not see what your confusion is. You keep placing the emphasis on the world "only"...my emphasis was on the word "misguided". Singapore, Switzerland, New Zealand, etc. believing their nations are safe...makes sense. The USA believing the same is...misguided. As in...
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    For anyone that would prefer to be educated...rather than engaging in the adult equivalent of hiding under a blanket listening to spooky stories, here is a good reference article that addressed this topic from many of our perspectives...
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    earlyretirement, Ok...now that was just a funny and witty comeback. Nothing else to say...lol.
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    Iznogud, Come on now...the ego stroke was good...but not a "legend" in my own mind...maybe just an interesting footnote. Pure humility prevents me from anything further. However, good observation on my limited posting to other threads. Two things to consider: 1) I tend to lurk, more than...
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    nicoenarg, I truly don't get what you think is the point. The places you cited do have a reason to believe they are safe...the USA does not. That was my exact point. It is sad that anyone living in the USA would imagine their daily existence to be as safe as Singapore or Switzerland. You...
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    Citygirl, And tell it well you do...lol. More like 2-4 months stints at a time. Much more involved than just quick drives from hotels to offices and back. Including forays into many places that BA residents don't even want to go. Real in depth cross-section of true BA life. You know, when...
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    Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

    nicoenarg, It is not a bad point. But you did just about list all of the places. Well, actually, you missed Saudi Arabia, also, off the top of my head. Let me spot you another 10 countries in addition, say small Island states. Even then, they would represent a small fraction of the world's...
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    Citygirl, Lol...laugh away. However, I bet if we total the entire number of days you have spent in BA and mine...they wouldn't look that different. Yours would likely be more compressed in time, mine more dispersed. In some ways, it gives me the advantage of seeing the city evolve over time...
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    Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

    Andrew, Cool. I get your perspective. FYI, same two neighborhoods for me. Grew up as a kind in Lakeview East. Lived as an adult mostly Gold Coast. If the argument is you hear about more BA crime...I won't go there. Reason being...I got involved in the ugliest tit-for-tat debate on that in an...
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    Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

    OK...cause I know this will be fun: Chicago: Total time lived there: 21 years Buenos Aires: Never lived there, but business there for 26 years, most visited city in the world for me. Current Home: Salinas and Guayaquil, Ecuador - 3 years. Where I hear the same constant bs about Guayaquil...
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    Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

    Andrew, You wrote: "I live in Chicago, but be sure to tell me when I have a "real world experience" and am allowed to talk." Now would be good. Tell me...how safe is my previous home and lovely city? Where do you live? You know...just in general? Zip code? Neighborhood? That's all. Do you...
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    Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

    earlyretirement, you wrote: "I still laugh when I read posts on this board that try to say that most major cities in the USA are as dangerous as Buenos Aires. People are really deluded if they really try to talk themselves into believing that. I've been to every major city in the USA and in...
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    braytrain, Read your post on Orlando. Know what you mean. All I could keep thinking when you described everything you'd witnessed was, "Dang, and that was just in Disneyland." Give Mickey a shot or two of Tequila...he becomes a darned fool. You just aren't going to convince those with...
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    earlyretirement, Don't encourage the promotion of hearsay over facts. The statistics are valid. The USA is the most violent nation on the planet. Per capita, there are a myriad of American cities more violent than BA. There is simply no empirical evidence to substantiate the underreporting...
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    Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

    Trennod, Look...it's not that I don't understand what your saying. It has some truth to it. But if you think the average person in Chicago trusts his local police officer, any more than they do in BA, then you have got to walk at least a block or two away from the Gold Coast. I know entire...
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