22% of the UBA medical students are foreigners

[redlobster]

Enough to pay a minimum tax rate on my minimum wage part-time job ...

So, get a part-time job at a kiosco, study medicine for free in Buenos Aires. Gotta admit, it sounds much more sustainable.

 

[antipodean]

So, get a part-time job at a kiosco, study medicine for free in Buenos Aires. Gotta admit, it sounds much more sustainable.

You're spot on, it would be more sustainable than the 1.150.000 Argentines who today pay any kind of income tax versus the 45.000.000ish that don't.

 

[Rich One]

Argentina to charge foreigners for use of universities, public hospitals

President Javier Milei’s government says it will introduce new rules allowing public hospitals and universities to charge foreigners, while tightening restrictions for expulsion and refusal of entry.

batimes.com.ar

22% of the UBA medical students are foreigners!! These are the fruits of fur wearing, designer bag carrying socialism!!

UBA is excellent . Question: This 22 % includes foreign permanent residents and naturalized citizens. ?
UBA's Dean indicated the has zero non residents medical students....

 

[saucerfam]

To me, it's one of Argentina's most admirable and commendable actions - to offer its citizens the opportunity for a quality higher education.

But I never understood how such an impoverished nation could offer the same to foreign students without some type of major ask of national service after graduation.

 

[Frank2000]

There are many universities free for international students in Europe as well. They attract what is called brain migration from non EU countries.

 

[Lanick]

UBA is excellent . Question: This 22 % includes foreign permanent residents and naturalized citizens. ?
UBA's Dean indicated the has zero non residents medical students....

Nope it doesn’t include. If you’re a naturalized citizen or a permanent resident then you’re a local. You can freely benefit from anything public. It’s your right!

 

[FrankPintor]

There are many universities free for international students in Europe as well. They attract what is called brain migration from non EU countries.

And, more to the point, tuition fees are waived for EU citizens from other member countries. If you replace "EU" by "Mercosur", then you have something approaching the situation here in Argentina.

There indeed may be more rational ways for a country no longer so well off to manage this.

The point is, this is just more shameless LLA shit-stirring. It's been pointed out to these fools that there are no non-resident foreigners studying at the UBA. One would expect red faces all round at the Casa Rosada, but I have no doubt the goverment troll, Adorni, will just double down. The fact is, there's no way to stop Mercosur citizens studying here under the same conditions Argentinians do, without a major unpicking of migration law.

 

[Quilombo]

I have never understood the complaints about this, have these people ever been to a hospital in CABA?

All the doctors and nurses and xray techs are Bolivian, Paraguayans, Brazilians, etc. and I'm not just talking about public hospitals like Rividavia, but also private ones like Favoloro and Britanico too. Do these people think students from these countries will take on debt to go to school here, and then stay after college working for pitiful salaries in the public hospital system? All the Argentine graduates of UBA sure as shit don't, they move to Spain or the US as soon as they can, especially in recent years.

My personal opinion is that since society needs doctors, and they're a social good, their education should be paid for by the state provided they:

- Remain in the country for say at least 10 years?
- Maybe they can reduce this to 5 years if they go to the areas with the most need for doctors? (Rural Jujuy/Salta/Chaco/Patagonia, poor parts of GBA, etc.)

We need more doctors, not less in Argentina, but hey, let's cut off our noses to spite our faces apparently...

@nikad I'm curious to here your POV as a practicing nurse here

 

[Lanick]

I have never understood the complaints about this, have these people ever been to a hospital in CABA?

All the doctors and nurses and xray techs are Bolivian, Paraguayans, Brazilians, etc. and I'm not just talking about public hospitals like Rividavia, but also private ones like Favoloro and Britanico too. Do these people think students from these countries will take on debt to go to school here, and then stay after college working for pitiful salaries in the public hospital system? All the Argentine graduates of UBA sure as shit don't, they move to Spain or the US as soon as they can, especially in recent years.

My personal opinion is that since society needs doctors, and they're a social good, their education should be paid for by the state provided they:

- Remain in the country for say at least 10 years?
- Maybe they can reduce this to 5 years if they go to the areas with the most need for doctors? (Rural Jujuy/Salta/Chaco/Patagonia, poor parts of GBA, etc.)

We need more doctors, not less in Argentina, but hey, let's cut off our noses to spite our faces apparently...

@nikad I'm curious to here your POV as a practicing nurse here

It’s their country. They’re entitled to free education of their choice of major and then free to leave for anywhere they want. But foreigners coming here and studying for free on the Argentine taxpayers’ dime is ridiculous. They can pay and study if they want to.

 

[Lanick]

And, more to the point, tuition fees are waived for EU citizens from other member countries. If you replace "EU" by "Mercosur", then you have something approaching the situation here in Argentina.

There indeed may be more rational ways for a country no longer so well off to manage this.

The point is, this is just more shameless LLA shit-stirring. It's been pointed out to these fools that there are no non-resident foreigners studying at the UBA. One would expect red faces all round at the Casa Rosada, but I have no doubt the goverment troll, Adorni, will just double down. The fact is, there's no way to stop Mercosur citizens studying here under the same conditions Argentinians do, without a major unpicking of migration law.

There are foreigners studying at UBA hence the declaration!