Abandonar el pais for 10 days?

[steveinbsas]

Only a 15 step process!.

Only if you count getting photocopies as four separate steps...(according to syngirl's list).

I am not going to get rich paying 2k pesos for things that are not necessary, and that cost me lots of time.

How many lazy idiots do you know who ever became rich?

(Except for those who have been elected to political office...just as you aspire.)

 

[abandonar]

How many lazy idiots do you know who ever became rich?

Wow, this is getting personal!

I am going to bite my tongue, even though you came kinda close to calling me a lazy idiot when you do not even know me.

(Except for those who have been elected to political office...just as you aspire.)

Actually, I know more than a few American politicians, and almost all of them work 80+ hour weeks routinely. I would say that that is the norm.

 

[steveinbsas]

Wow, this is getting personal!

I am going to bite my tongue, even though you came kinda close to calling me a lazy idiot when you do not even know me.

You called yourself an idiot and lazy in this thread.

Who could possibly know you better?

Did you forget posting this:

ok, i am an idiot...

or this:

I have been a little lazy about getting residency just because it seemed like there was alot of tramites involved.

I didn't call you names. I just did the math.

 

[mini]

Only a 15 step process!

Getting photocopies and calling for an appointment are not difficult.

I am not going to get rich paying 2k pesos for things that are not necessary, and that cost me lots of time.

How much does it cost you to go to Colonia every 90 days?

It seems you're determined not to "get legal" which is up to you. But you just got yourself an "leave the country in 10 days" notice. How much will it cost you to fix that?

 

[French jurist]

I have been a little nervous about getting Argentine citizenship. I am not rich now or close to it, but if I do get rich in the future, Argentina could try to impose its wealth tax on me, right? I know lots of rich Argentines keep their money outside the country and have no problem, but...I generally attempt to follow the law (overstaying my visa this time was an exception...oops) and would not want to pay the wealth tax nor possibly risk the teeniest tiniest chance of going to jail because I did not pay the wealth tax.

Also, I think there is some small chance I might run for office in the US someday, and I am not sure how being a citizen of another country might affect that.

I have been a little lazy about getting residency just because it seemed like there was alot of tramites involved. My wife was more interested, but I am not sure that she officially started the process. I am not sure residency is worth getting all the documents necessary (and getting them stamped, etc) when I can keep going to Colonia every 90 days.

- Wealth tax & richness : Well, maybe will Argentina take some day the same steps towards Uruguay that Germany, USA and France took towards Switzerland.
- Getting rich : is all I wish you
- "going to jail because I did not pay the wealth tax" : first you would need to get rich, second I don't know examples of people here having been thrown to jail for not paying the wealth tax.
- "Also, I think there is some small chance I might run for office in the US someday, and I am not sure how being a citizen of another country might affect that." : likely a good way of getting rich and unreachable
- "I have been a little lazy about getting residency just because it seemed like there was alot of tramites involved." : could interfere a bit with your future political career (bla bla bla : was an illegal, did not pay taxes, admitted laziness, etc..) but worldwide statistics show that politicians go away with that, whether in Africa, Americas, Europe, ...
- "My wife was more interested, but I am not sure that she officially started the process. I am not sure residency..." : I am not quite sure your wife could have started your residency process in your place, so likely she did not.


And now, like stated Mini, you were given 8 days ago a 10 days notice to leave the country and you are coming back.
My opinion, like bajo-cero said, is that you risk nothing if you have the "partida de matrimonio" or the "libreto familiar" with you.
You just went from a loophole (so-called "permatourist") to another one (husband to an Argentinean, legally married in Argentina, who never claimed neither residency nor citizenship).

 

[steveinbsas]

It seems you're determined not to "get legal" which is up to you. But you just got yourself an "leave the country in 10 days" notice. How much will it cost you to fix that?

The leave the country in ten days notice is routine when paying the overstay fine. Anyone could go to the airport, pay the fine and not actually leave, but of course that is highly unlikely. The notice is also given at the office of migraciones when someone who's 90 days visa has already expired goes to extend it. It is entirely possible that the OP will receive an "ultima prorroga" for 90 days when he returns, but that is not certain. If he does, won't he have to apply for the permanent residency to stay "legal" or go back to the US while his wife waits here for a US visa? I wonder if (foreign) immigration violations could ever come back to haunt his future US political career. I certainly wouldn't want them in my background if I planned to run for office someday.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

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My opinion, like bajo-cero said, is that you risk nothing if you have the "partida de matrimonio" or the "libreto familiar" with you.
You just went from a loophole (so-called "permatourist") to another one (husband to an Argentinean, legally married in Argentina, who never claimed neither residency nor citizenship).

In fact there are not such loopholes. Perma-turist is a fake turist according to new decreto, it means an irregular who might become illegal with a deportation order is he or she is stupid enough to acchive it.
As a spounse he is an inhabitant. So he should take a national constitution with him and to study art. 14 as a priest studies the biblle.

Regards

 

[A&A]

Listen Big shot of the "Oh so precious time". Do what people with "precious time" do and hire an attorney to do everything and mail you the final paperwork. Perhaps he can call you to say your paperwork has been done while you are sunning yourself on the Ferry to Colonia. That's what people do.

And as far as wealth and taxes: no one is "bitchier" about taxes in the U.S. As the IRS reserves the right to come after you for taxes even if you have renounced your citizenship. Gimme a break!!! Anyone with money in the U.S. tries to hide the hell out of it.

And should you ever become "wealthy" as you say: well you will again "hire someone to deal with all your residency/tax issues. Can you say Cayman Islands, or Irish banks?

Actually, I know more than a few American politicians, and almost all of them work 80+ hour weeks routinely. I would say that that is the norm.

I would say that if you account for all elected officials (especially at State and Local levels which by far outweighs the roughly 800 ones in D.C.) many of them work way less than 80 hours a week as these are part time positions that still seem to pay more than $100K a year, provide ridiculous pension benefits (often protected even in cases of indictments..even ones related to their conduct as said elected official). So, I don't think they work hard, I do think they more often than not serve themselves an not the "will of the people".

And finally, with respect to your ambitions in this regard: I would love to see how during the debates on US immigration, as a Republican/Independent/or Tea Party candidate you would explain how while you lived abroad you "ignored, flaunted and violated the immigration laws of a country", but back home would sell a immigration stance in line with the GOP plank. Or of course, you can say..."well I hold dual citizenship, and during my time I became fluent in Spanish and saw a different part of the world at work (pros and cons)."

Yes, with the very small and shrinking Hispanic population in the US, I can see how the latter would come back to bite you. Stay the way you are...sounds prudent.

 

[abandonar]

And finally, with respect to your ambitions in this regard: I would love to see how during the debates on US immigration, as a Republican/Independent/or Tea Party candidate

I am none of those. You are almost as much a boludo as steveinbsas

 

[steveinbsas]

I am none of those. You are almost as much a boludo as steveinbsas

That leaves DEMOCRAT.

That would be a good choice as the DEMS are so much better at name calling than the others.

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