I said these words in general are used meaning no harm. I didn't say it was right or wrong. I expressed in my experience what some people addressed with these words think. I cannot generalize. I also stated that societies, culture and language need to evolve naturally and not be forced or censored. Words such as bitch and faggot are insults per se. I think you do not tolerate people having different opinions. You also use the term nationalist implying that it has negative connotations. I might be nationalist or not, and you don't know that, so you assume things without even asking. Sorry but I think you come out as defensive and narrow minded.
As has been said so many times already, but let me try again. It is the fact that certain members of society perpetuate and make excuses for these pejorative terms that they are problematic. They create social divides, and are loaded with a whole set of cultural value judgments. Just because individuals who use them are not being intentionally malicious, that doesn't take away from the harm.
Words like 'bitch' have many times been excused like this Nikad, defended as a value neutral culturally relative term. I.e. In particular sub culture x, the term is used as a term of endearment. The term has also been more widely applied as an insult of course. The same with terms like 'gay' and to a lesser degree 'faggot'. The N word also has clearly been defended in this way as alluded to by another forum poster earlier in this thread. To this day it's used and laughed about in some places in southern USA, just harmless fun they'd say.
So you are right. I am intolerant, of intolerance. Specially when it's aimed at minority communities who suffer tangible harm from the societal fallout. I think, as I have stated many times, that we shouldn't just say stuff like "pobre abuelita, dice negrita porque siempre se decia asi, no lo dice para discriminar!" We need to talk about the realities and trust that even abuelita can learn to be better and re evaluate mistaken longstanding uses of vocab.
I agree with you that censorship is not a good solution, I never said it was. Only one forum member did, and when challenged on providing more specifics on what exactly they meant, and what research they were referring to, didn't write back.
As a sidenote on your evident nationalism; I called you out as you (along with a few other members) had started making the argument that I, and others, couldn't talk about the Argentine use of the word chinito, as we were foreigners who didn't understand. We all apparently come from countries who are far more racist and worse (*see whataboutism), and that it was our cultural imperialism that was really the issue here.
That is a classic Nationalist move, it's textbook. I'd go as far as saying that to think about the world that way you'd have to be very nationalistic. So you should at least own it. You put it out there, its your belief, don't now feign ignorance.
