Anyone Selling A Drill?

[lucha54]

There was a great Black & Decker drill for sale last year in a garage/moving sale. My bf passed it up at the time and always regretted it!! So just wanted to throw it out there that he's looking again if anyone has one and thinking of selling...

 

[Ries]

Hold out for Metabo. Costs more, but its worth it. South American B&D is ok, better than no name chinese, but not great.

 

[Tilda]

I have never seen a Metabo. We have started buying Makita tools and they seem better. Black and decker here doesn't seem to hold the same quality as in Europe. It could be a geographical difference or a time difference . The B&D that I know we're from twenty years back.

 

[Ries]

Black and Decker is now owned by a multinational and most of them are made in China.
Metabo is german, the better ferreterias sell them. They are better than Makita. But Makita is good japanese quality.
In Palermo, I buy my quality tools from the ferreteria industrial on Salguero, just off of Santa Fe. They sell Black and Decker, Bosch, Metabo, and other brands, and they sell every kind of high quality tool- if you need a good wrench, or hand saw, or drill bit or file, they have the good stuff.
I also like the industrial hardware stores right across from Retiro Station, on Libertador, right before the park. There are two or three, they sell to contractors, they have real tools, not the cheap chinese tool shaped objects.
I am a bit of a tool nut- I have a shop in the USA that is industrial scaled machinery for wood and metal, and own several of every tool you can think of.

 

[ghost]

For a home owner Metabo and Bosch are overkill. Makita is a good value for the home owner / project guy/ light contractor. B and D, has lost allot of it's reputation over the years and is now just the low priced alternative to stone hammers.

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

For a home owner Metabo and Bosch are overkill. Makita is a good value for the home owner / project guy/ light contractor. B and D, has lost allot of it's reputation over the years and is now just the low priced alternative to stone hammers.

Ditto, best value for your money, that is the phrase or the mantra. Makita~Ryobi gives you a reliable and durable quality for way less than the German counter part. You pay a premium for german stuff and keep paying the same for the upkeep. A friend once had the "prestigious" Mercedes-Benz marque, but the upkeep was costing him as much as the entire vehicle's purchase price just for the long term upkeep, now he owns a "Lexus", less prestigious but more durable and way,way less money spent for the upkeep than the Germans, and that was his word not mine ! But somehow, why is that Lexus marque outsells the M-B, BMW, Audis all combined in the USA? Not price, due to carrying the same sticker price as the prestigious Germans...?

 

[AmigoArtistico]

...stone hammers.

Far and away, this is the predominant tool used in my building. I often feel that I'm living in the stone age. Nary a day goes by that someone isn't smashing something with a hammer all day long. Those are the days when the term "third world country" really resonates with me.

Some years ago, when I needed kitchen plumbing work done, the plumber (who was matriculado) spent the first full day smashing all the cement off of the kitchen pipes. After the next day or two of fixing things up (though one of the pipes began leaking again about six months later), I walked into the kitchen to find him preparing to again cover all the pipes and fill the space in the wall with a massive amount of new cement. I transformed into a version of Edvard Munch's The Scream -- and possibly uttered one -- before asking him why he was doing that. He didn't really have an answer, although he suggested that I'd get cockroaches in the wall if I didn't fill it -- and cover over the pipes -- with cement. It seems that around here, that's just the way things are done.

Well, years later, I still don't have cockroaches, and now there's at least one apartment in my building that can save the other tenants from listening to a torturous day of heavy hammering should I happen to need more kitchen plumbing work.

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And sorry, OP, but I don't have a spare drill for sale, but the way the economy is worsening, MercadoLibre should be adding volumes of stuff like that by the day, as the poor, unfortunate citizens here try to make ends meet.

 

[Ries]

Makitas in Argentina are made in Brazil.
The Dewalts and Black and Deckers are sometimes chinese, sometimes brazilian.

Interestingly enough, Metabo, Makita, and B&D are all pretty much the same price range in Argentina- around $800 pesos for a basic taladro percutor. This is pretty much needed here- in the US, anyway, you can get by with just a drill, but here, you need a hammer drill, because the walls are all made of plaster, mortar, and sometimes cement.

The Metabo, at the same price or for a hundred pesos more, is a far better tool, that will last much longer.

Hand power tools are not like cars- German ones actually require LESS maintenance and upkeep.
I have Bosch tools that are 25 years old, and still work great.

I would humbly disagree that spending an extra ten or twenty dollars for a tool that will last a lifetime is overkill.

Of course, I own probably 40 hand electric power tools, including at least a dozen Makitas, and more Bosches.

But in argentina, in an apartment, a good hammer drill is the one main power tool I think is a necessity.

Hybrid san-
Makita is a japanese company- and, even made in brazil or made in china Makitas are pretty good.
Ryobi, on the other hand, is owned by a german/american conglomerate based in Hong Kong, Techtronic Industries.
They are almost all made in China, and are considered to be inferior to Makita, tool for tool. They mainly make them for the american market, sold in the big box stores. Professionals rarely buy Ryobi, but pros I know, particularly woodworkers, often own many Makita tools.
I have several Makitas from the 70's that are still going strong.
so- Makita, yes.
Ryobi- meh.

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

I always and only used Makita tools. The Ryobi mentioned 'cause here in the states, they are doing the "sale campaign" and it seems
people are going for the price instead of quality. Friend of mine in Chile said once to me, Latin people does snot buy quality, they buy cheap then pay twice later.!

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

Ryobi brand was once a Japanese but you are right, now owned by multi-nationals..!

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