Are you illegal while waiting for residency?

[Bajo_cero2]

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[artisans]

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Attention Bajo_cero2 - this is the automatic reply received (translated to english) when try to send e-mail to that address
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[Bajo_cero2]

in that case is gob instead of gov.

 

[artisans]

in that case is gob instead of gov.

I wrote to them and I posted the reply from gob.ar today. It is translated to english at this thread: When will immigration reopen for DNI? I have been trying to contact them. Maybe you can make sense of it?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

You can follow your case on line.

Consulta Unificada Migraciones | argentina.gob.ar

Estado de tu trámite Migraciones, Solicitud de Renovación de Certificado de Residencia Precaria

www.migraciones.gov.ar

 

[Preston]

I just got my precaria one week ago and though my visa was expired I never got a prorroga. Here's my experience if it helps anyone:
I was applying for permanent residency because my wife is a dual citizen US/ARG.

June 23 2019 - I arrived under the 90 day tourist visa and started submitting my paperwork in August and paid the extra price for the expedited service.

I had delays getting some docs from the US and was worried my visa would run out even before my documents arrived, so I went back to the immigrations office building 6 and asked about the prorroga. The clerk told me that I could come back 10-days before my visa expires and pay the prorroga fee (something like 2,000 pesos I think) but not sooner. He also said that if I had no need to leave the country, he recommended I did not pay the fee, he said "save your money". He explained that it would only be a problem for me if I was trying to leave the country, but if I was intent on finishing the tramite to just keep going and not pay the fee.

Sept 18 2019 - I ended up getting the documents I needed and submitted my tramite only a few days before my visa expired.

Sept 30 2019 - While waiting for the next step, my visa expired. I got an email from RADEX that my marriage cert was incorrect, so I went in the system to re-upload.
Oct 2 2019 - A week later I got the same email with the same issue. I think the problem was that my marriage doc was 8 pages with apostille, translation and legalization, but they only let you upload a jpeg in this section. This time I uploaded just the translated 1st page of the marriage doc.

October 23 2019 - I received a notice to appear the following day 10/24/19 and bring my paperwork.
October 24 2019 - At the immigrations office they asked me for all the documents and I was issued a precaria that same day. This is when I believe the expedited service paid off since I was assisted by one of the managers that sits behind all the front counter attendants. I also came with an Argentine family member who insisted I spoke with the person who sent me the email. The precaria I received was set to expire by the end of the month, so I went online and renewed it easily.

October 25 2019 - I received an email to come to the office within the next 10 days
October 29 2019 - At the immigrations office I was given an appointment for my wife and I to get an interview on February 12th. I was told we would both need renewed verification of residencies and proof of income. I'm assuming this is the final step.

Throughout the process I never needed the prorroga. I was also worried that leaving the country would reset my application, since you have to be in the country to start it. I also went yesterday to a local ANSES office and got my CUIL, just showing my precaria and passport as explained in other forums here.
Thanks to everyone that has posted on this site, it really made a difference. I'm happy to share any other details of my experience.

Update: June 17th I received my DNI by mail at my home address (extranjero/permanent resident). Even under quarantine it seems like migraciones is still processing these.
First attempt no adults were home and they wouldn't give it to a minor (my nephew). Two days later, second attempt my father-in-law was home. The man asked for the constancia, but we have no idea what this is. He didn't have the document but the delivery person said it was okay and gave my father-in-law the DNI.

I've seen constancia mentioned in other forums by @Stantucker. Maybe it was the "DISPOSICIÓN DE RESIDENCIA PROTOCOLIZADA" that I received via email?? It was a 3 page document with a signature showing the date my permanent residency started. No sure.

 

[dilmah]

Maybe it was the "DISPOSICIÓN DE RESIDENCIA PROTOCOLIZADA" that I received via email?? It was a 3 page document with a signature showing the date my permanent residency started.

So what was the date of this document? What number of days passed between Migraciones' approval of your permanent residence and the day you finally received DNI in mail (June 17th)?

 

[Preston]

So what was the date of this document? What number of days passed between Migraciones' approval of your permanent residence and the day you finally received DNI in mail (June 17th)?

The 'DISPOSICIÓN DE RESIDENCIA PROTOCOLIZADA' was dated March 8th, 2020 and I got it via email.
The actual DNI lists the "Date of Issue" as April 15th, 2020
I received the DNI by mail on June 17th (first attempt on June 15th).
So about 3 months.

 

[Stantucker]

Update: June 17th I received my DNI by mail at my home address (extranjero/permanent resident). Even under quarantine it seems like migraciones is still processing these.
First attempt no adults were home and they wouldn't give it to a minor (my nephew). Two days later, second attempt my father-in-law was home. The man asked for the constancia, but we have no idea what this is. He didn't have the document but the delivery person said it was okay and gave my father-in-law the DNI.

I've seen constancia mentioned in other forums by @Stantucker. Maybe it was the "DISPOSICIÓN DE RESIDENCIA PROTOCOLIZADA" that I received via email?? It was a 3 page document with a signature showing the date my permanent residency started. No sure.

When they delivered my wife's DNI, they asked for the constancia or her precaria. We did not have a constancia, so she gave him her precaria. They had incorrect information on that (new) DNI, but after she went to Renaper on Yrigoyen to request a second, correct DNI, they gave her a constancia and that's what she gave the postman to get that second DNI. (As an aside, that second DNI had exactly the same mistake as the first, but, hey, it did have the new picture they took at Yrigoyen. Incompetence at its best. She now has to wait until the Renaper on Yrigoyen is operating again and go through the same process again.) If you are a foreigner, you get a constancia only if they messed up or you lose your DNI and you've been to Yrigoyen. You have to give the postman a copy of your precaria otherwise. It can even be expired; they don't care.

 

[Stantucker]

The 'DISPOSICIÓN DE RESIDENCIA PROTOCOLIZADA' was dated March 8th, 2020 and I got it via email.
The actual DNI lists the "Date of Issue" as April 15th, 2020
I received the DNI by mail on June 17th (first attempt on June 15th).
So about 3 months.

I got my disposición saying that I had been granted permanent residency mid Feb.
The date of issue of my DNI: May 1.
Date of delivery: June 3.
3 1/2 months.