Brazil opens no visas for Americans

[Pensador]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michel...tm_campaign=sprinklrForbesMainFB#7d6cbf553347

 

[garryl]

finally, does this mean party time on copacabana beach ?

 

[sergio]

Meanwhile EU countries will require visas for US citizens starting in 2020.

 

[gracielle]

Meanwhile EU countries will require visas for US citizens starting in 2020.

Per CNN...an earlier version of this story mischaracterized the European Travel Information and Authorization System (ETIAS) as a visa. It is an authorization system.

ETIAS Visa Waiver For Americans
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-requirements/americans
U.S. citizens traveling to Europe will shortly need to apply for an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorization System) visa waiver which is the new travel authorization for Europe that will come into effect from 2021. Similar to other countries and regions in the world, Europe has recently decided to improve its security level to avoid any further problems with illegal immigration and terrorism. This means that from 2021, all Americans traveling to a European country in the Schengen Zone will be in need of an ETIAS.

 

[bigbadwolf]

Per CNN...an earlier version of this story mischaracterized the European Travel Information and Authorization System (ETIAS) as a visa. It is an authorization system.

ETIAS Visa Waiver For Americans
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-requirements/americans
U.S. citizens traveling to Europe will shortly need to apply for an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorization System) visa waiver which is the new travel authorization for Europe that will come into effect from 2021. Similar to other countries and regions in the world, Europe has recently decided to improve its security level to avoid any further problems with illegal immigration and terrorism. This means that from 2021, all Americans traveling to a European country in the Schengen Zone will be in need of an ETIAS.

Right. It's similar to what Europeans from countries on USA's visa waiver list have to go through to enter the USA.

 

[sergio]

Right. It's similar to what Europeans from countries on USA's visa waiver list have to go through to enter the USA.

A minor difference I think.

 

[mmoon]

Meanwhile EU countries will require visas for US citizens starting in 2020.

This erroneous story got so much traction recently...I don’t know why the correct info isn’t getting out there.

 

[ben]

This erroneous story got so much traction recently...I don’t know why the correct info isn’t getting out there.

Because there is a concurrent story about the EU being unhappy about the US requiring visas for citizens of some member states (Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania). The EU wants equal treatment for everyone.

And within the context of that story, some voices are indeed calling for the EU to impose visa requirements on US citizens.

The likelihood of this actually happening is, of course, extremely low. To quote the European Commission:

Why is the Commission not proposing the reintroduction of visas for citizens from the United States?​

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In view of the significant progress achieved over the past three and a half years, the Commission maintains its position that diplomatic engagement continues to be the most appropriate way forward [...] still considers that the adoption of measures temporarily reintroducing visa requirements for U.S. citizens would be counterproductive at this moment and would not help achieve visa-free travel for all EU citizens [...] not likely to improve the situation for citizens and businesses on either side of the Atlantic [...] The Commission believes that progress can be achieved with continued engagement and diplomatic contacts [...] The Commission will however keep this position under review in light of future developments.​

Details here.

Anyways, that’s likely a reason why some took the new ETIAS (which is very similar to the US’s ESTA and Canada’s ETA) as some sort of visa scheme.
Another reason would be that many journalists (particularly at some media outlets) are lazy, and are all too happy to regurgitate a story they read elsewhere without the slightest vetting of their own. So one erroneous piece instantly goes viral.

 

[sergio]

Because there is a concurrent story about the EU being unhappy about the US requiring visas for citizens of some member states (Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania). The EU wants equal treatment for everyone.

And within the context of that story, some voices are indeed calling for the EU to impose visa requirements on US citizens.

The likelihood of this actually happening is, of course, extremely low. To quote the European Commission:

Why is the Commission not proposing the reintroduction of visas for citizens from the United States?​

​

In view of the significant progress achieved over the past three and a half years, the Commission maintains its position that diplomatic engagement continues to be the most appropriate way forward [...] still considers that the adoption of measures temporarily reintroducing visa requirements for U.S. citizens would be counterproductive at this moment and would not help achieve visa-free travel for all EU citizens [...] not likely to improve the situation for citizens and businesses on either side of the Atlantic [...] The Commission believes that progress can be achieved with continued engagement and diplomatic contacts [...] The Commission will however keep this position under review in light of future developments.​

Details here.

Anyways, that’s likely a reason why some took the new ETIAS (which is very similar to the US’s ESTA and Canada’s ETA) as some sort of visa scheme.
Another reason would be that many journalists (particularly at some media outlets) are lazy, and are all too happy to regurgitate a story they read elsewhere without the slightest vetting of their own. So one erroneous piece instantly goes viral.

They can impose a visa requirement and watch as tourism declnes. Brazil figured that out. Remember the Argentina visa for US citizens? A CFK idea I believe.

 

[ben]

They can impose a visa requirement and watch as tourism declnes. Brazil figured that out. Remember the Argentina visa for US citizens? A CFK idea I believe.

Which is precisely why they haven’t.
And never mind tourism, business as well would suffer and greatly so.
France and Germany and the UK are not going to go down that route for the sake of Croatia and Bulgaria, important as both they and the principle at hand may be.