Building robbery

nikad said:
I could not find any reference on local online newspapers today. I don´t really care whether these were robbers from the villa or Colombia: the problem has the same root: governments lack of planning, lack of law enforcement, lack of opportunities, being in denial talking about a sensation, corruption, etc, etc.


It was a small police section note , one column wide by 7 cm long, the address mentioned was French 2900 block:cool:
 
Additionally, the comparing of different cities in different countries and picking out individual crimes is complete nonsense. We're talking about the real world here and what's happening day-to-day in the city in which we live.

If you really want some comparisons with other countries that make sense, where all variables except the country are the same because they apply to one person (me), here's one for you:

My life in chronological order...
30 years in the UK: victim of 0 crimes.
7 years in Saudi Arabia: victim of 0 crimes.
1 year in Spain: victim of 0 crimes.
1 year in Brasil: victim of 1 crime (robbed at gunpoint by 3 cops).
8 years in the UK: victim of 1 crime (theft by LHR baggage handlers).
5 years in Argentina: victim of 19 crimes (burglary and theft mainly, 6 involving violence or the threat of violence, 2 carried out by the cops).
 
RicardoBA said:
I am not going to say that there isn't any crime in BA, however when is the last time someone broke into a dark cinema and blew away a bunch of people like that guy did in Colorado. Need I continue with the numerous school shootings in the States.
I think we need to keep the reactionary responses to a reasonable level to the crime in Argentina.
it is a different thing. violent crimes in big cities in argentina are really normal, and the use of guns to rob is totally normal. and it does feel like the goverment is doing nothing about it.
yes, the probability of getting attacked by an insane person with a machine gun is incredibly higher in the us than in argentina or any other country of the region. every country has it`s problems the us has plenty insane people with powerfull firearms and the need for the world to notice them. but this has nothing to do with the fact that argentina an specially buenos aires and the conurbano have a problem that authorities don`t seem to be able to control and criminals seem to get more violent each year
 
Looking at my pills.
Maybe I should take a Fukitol for myself and pass the Chill Pills around, what say you?

LOL
 
Iznogud said:
Looking at my pills.
Maybe I should take a Fukitol for myself and pass the Chill Pills around, what say you?

LOL
Good idea...pass a few this way!

;-)
 
DavieW said:
5 years in Argentina: victim of 19 crimes (burglary and theft mainly, 6 involving violence or the threat of violence, 2 carried out by the cops).


Davie - This is certainly NOT a case of blame the messenger but what in the world are you doing to be a victim so many times? I'll be the first to admit that crime is increasing in Buenos Aires over the years.

But 19 cases of crime in 5 years? I'd think there is something that you are doing wrong if you've been exposed to crime that many times in 5 years. 19 times is an incredible amount of times that I couldn't chalk up to bad luck.
 
Guys, I think there was at least one crime that ended in death.... in... hmmm... India... yesterday... just saying... in case you want to paste it here and compare it to BA... you know... because it seems like... comparable...
 
Things are only going to get worse with this atmosphere of permissiveness. A minor? Nothing happens - they'll probably just be held for 12 hours and released. Even if they're an adult and get convicted, they'll only get months or maybe a couple of years for armed robbery and battery. The reaction of the police is almost nonexistent... they write a report, investigate a bit, but then what? Nothing changes. The street isn't secured, they don't start cracking down, they just respond to calls as they come.

In my parents neighborhood in Florida, a house was robbed and the police were there immediately, secured the area, brought out helicopters, and hunted the burglars (with dogs and all) until they were caught hiding in a canal. I don't know what happened to them, but they didn't return to the area. Here? :D Even when they have names and descriptions they hardly ever catch the culprits let alone show they're serious.

I don't blame the police - their hands are tied in a lot of ways - but the city, the federal administration, and the courts have been very weak in stopping crime. Blame lies with both Cristina and Macri.
 
RicardoBA, you are comparing the actions of a mad man with the lack of law enforcement and impunity thugs seems to enjoy in a whole country, not just BA? I think you are not only missing the point but also displaying the same delusional condition CFK suffers. What is it with denying that BA or Argentina is suffering a crime wave? Why do you guys take everything as if it is a World Cup final or as if by stating the obvious we are somehow dancing over the Argentinean flag and mocking San Martin.

We came here because we like Argentina, most of us love it. We are here not because we don't have a choice but because we choose to be here and we want the best for this country, the best for our Argentine children (yes some of Us do have Argentine childrens/wife/husbands) and what we all want for them is nothing that you don't want for your own children or for yourselves.

That is why we gladly pay taxes, we comply with every inmigration law and why some of Us VOTE. That gives us the right to comment or demand security just as much as any other native.

Back to your example you will see the individual that carried out that attack, and most of the others that did something like it are either in custody or being processed. What happened with the 50+ who burned theis wifes/GFs? What happened with the famous boxer who run over a pregnant woman huh? Let me tell you, nothing, or they are in "jail" but get to go out for "cultural events".

Please don't tell me you don't see the difference
 
Didn`t take long for it to turn in to a crime in BA vs crime in the states thread. It would be nice if just once the comparison wasnt started and then continued in a thread.

Its amazing the amount of crime that is being commited in Recoleta at the moment. And its terrible the increasing crime in the whole city.

Interesting that you mention the growth of Villa 31 nikad, its amazing these socialist governments the crux of their message is about inclusion, being for the pueblo etc yet the poor only amplify.
 
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