Casas tomadas recovered in the city

The owner family can sell it to a willing buyer who will, depending on the condition of home, repair or rebuild.

Well, that sounds very nice and cuddly... wouldn't the owners have sold to a willing buyer before abandoning the property and permitting squatters (I know there are other scenarios, too), and before the property becoming a problem for the community?

From @jantango 's post, https://baexpats.org/threads/casas-tomadas-recovered-in-the-city.49692/post-468075 these are big buildings, not cases where the house owner left in the morning and forgot to lock the door.
 
Its interesting that, when the government wants to, changes can happen pretty quickly.
But changing laws like this seems to be on nobody in power's priority list.
Milei can ignore civil service laws, and fire people. He got rid of over 10% of the government work force, making most things slower.
But he has no interest in getting the judiciary to actually get sucesions done quickly.
 
Well, that sounds very nice and cuddly... wouldn't the owners have sold to a willing buyer before abandoning the property and permitting squatters (I know there are other scenarios, too), and before the property becoming a problem for the community?

From @jantango 's post, https://baexpats.org/threads/casas-tomadas-recovered-in-the-city.49692/post-468075 these are big buildings, not cases where the house owner left in the morning and forgot to lock the door.
There are as many distinct situations for lack of occupancy as there are distinct buildings. It's not up to a passing stranger to determine whether your empty property "deserves" to be yours. Here are some examples:

Property is mid construction - waiting for permits for gas, power, etc.
Property requires extensive repairs (owner doesn't have funds yet)
Property is under dispute among heirs
Property doesn't have paperwork - preventing sale
Owner has relocated but doesn't want to sell yet
Owner is deceased and city is required to wait for an heir to present themself

The above situations explain why a property can't move on to the next stage. Now, below you can see why property owners who are actively trying to move on to the stage can't anyway. Such as:

Property was usurped during new construction
Property was usurped during probate
Property was usurped during sale
Property was usurped during repairs
Property was usurped by disputed heirs
Property was usurped by tenants
 

We have already recovered 800
properties​

They wanted us to believe that land seizures were a problem
Impossible to solve. We proved them wrong.
With the seized property that we recovered in Floresta,
where they had set up an illegal and clandestine textile workshop,
We reached 800 properties returned to their owners.
Behind every property there are life stories, stories of families
who recovered what belongs to them and from neighborhoods they left
behind us are hot spots of insecurity, neglect, and illegal activities.
Today the City recovers, on average, more than one property
for each working day since the beginning of our government.

The laws didn't change: what changed was the political decision.
In the City, the law is obeyed and private property is respected.
 
Well, that sounds very nice and cuddly... wouldn't the owners have sold to a willing buyer before abandoning the property and permitting squatters (I know there are other scenarios, too), and before the property becoming a problem for the community?
People die and then comes the legal scenario that can take years or decades to be solved among several heirs.
 
People die and then comes the legal scenario that can take years or decades to be solved among several heirs.
This is very common. Siblings disagree, and places sit empty for years.
I knew someone who spent a couple of years working with something like 16 different heirs, to get them all to agree to sell. He really wanted it, it was 6 adjoining lots, and became an enormous garden.
But often, besides heirs disagreeing, there are large unpaid taxes, utility bills, expensas, and so on- and many heirs dont want to pay them off, so they refuse to list or sell. Even though the bills come out of the payment at closing, there are a lot of unrealistic people.
Or, one brother is convinced its worth 300k usd, and the other three would be very happy to split 150k.

I walk by one storefront from time to time, where the owner of the business died in something like 2006. And the display window still is full of 20 year old industrial abrasives, and the family has made zero effort to sell.
Similarly, there was an old cafe on a good stretch of Santa Fe, which sat empty for at least 20 years- prime real estate.
Finally, last spring, it sold- an entire 3 story building on Santa Fe and Austria- and immediately an army of workers began a total restoration.

This is more common than you would think, and often squatters take advantage, giving the divided owners even more reason to procrastinate.
 
.... and another scenario, this time just the two siblings. But they've asked a lawyer, a family member, to handle everything - on the usual favours basis that exists within families, of course. So the lawyer, who has a busy practice, keeps putting the favour at the bottom of their active pile and the active pile never grows any shorter. The lawyer only stands to inherit a tiny fraction - if anything - and then maybe fifty years down the line when they move up the line of succession so they have no incentive to do anything else. But hey, we don't have to pay for a lawyer!
 
Ok, I have only bought 3 properties in Argentina, over a 20 year period.
but- "Lawyer"?
I did have a friend draw up the first offer for me, in 2007, and he was a lawyer, but every bit of paperwork for every purchase and the one sale I have done in Argentina did not include any other lawyerly presence. And that offer could as easily be drawn up by a realtor- but we didnt have one, we just interacted with the sellers realtor.
Escribanos, sure.
They are absolutely essential.
And the occasional consultation from a Contadora, usually to clear tax status, usually a few hours and a couple hundred dollars.

lawyers dont figure into the vast majority of real estate sales.
now, maybe, in fights between siblings- but any actual legal work I have ever needed was subcontracted by my Escribano.

you absolutely need a good escribano, and all the other stuff gets dealt with.
 
Oh, they've not got as far as thinking about selling anything yet. It's still at the who actually owns how much of what and where it all is stage. It needn't have taken nine years (and counting) to sort it out but a) it isn't untypical of family situations in Argentina and b) would never have been a quick, easy fix anyway
 
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