Citizenship requirements

[Johngwyn]

As I don't have a temporary or permanent residence nor DNI, I cannot apply online through migraciones/RaDEX.

I'm planning on getting married in the next few months. Would it be possible to apply in person after marriage without DNI?

You might need a competente lawyer to help you apply at the Federal Court.

Some of them like mine suggest Federal Court has already closed it's door for citizenship,
but one lawyer here at least can confirm Federal Court is still accepts citizenship application, so...

 

[broc]

As I don't have a temporary or permanent residence nor DNI, I cannot apply online through migraciones/RaDEX.

I'm planning on getting married in the next few months. Would it be possible to apply in person after marriage without DNI?

Got married! Now how to get citizenship?

How long does it to get permanent residency from marriage? Are there any bueraccy like migraciones come and check whether its real marriage or not? I am worried i gonna marry real one but dont want to deal with BS checking extra etc. There's nothing given on the spot in this country. It took me...

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Answering my own question, based on the above post it seems that being a legal resident is now a requirement for citizenship and that there is no longer a fast-track for citizenship based on marriage.

Now the plan is to get married, get the residencia temporaria por reunificación familiar. Wait the required 2 years (per Ley 346), and apply online through Radex.

 

[francus211]

Answering my own question, based on the above post it seems that being a legal resident is now a requirement for citizenship and that there is no longer a fast-track for citizenship based on marriage.

This is correct - the previous exception for marriage no longer exists.

You can read the changes to the law here: https://www.argentina.gob.ar/normativa/nacional/ley-346-48854/actualizacion. The relevant section is article 2, paragraph 1.

The only criteria now for becoming a citizen are:
1. You must be 18 years or older at the time of the application
2. You must have resided for 2 years legally in the Argentine Republic prior to your application (i.e. on a valid visa)
3. You must have resided continuously for 2 years in the Argentine Republic prior to your application

On that last point, the law goes to great lengths to mention that you cannot have left the Argentine territory at any point in the last 2 years. So, if you have been on a day trip to Uruguay or Chile or left the country for any reason, the clock resets and you've got to start again.

 

[broc]

On that last point, the law goes to great lengths to mention that you cannot have left the Argentine territory at any point in the last 2 years. So, if you have been on a day trip to Uruguay or Chile or left the country for any reason, the clock resets and you've got to start again.

That's not a problem for me as I'm capable of going years without leaving the house.

 

[joelie]

I guess it is too soon to know as far as this new system is concerned, but does anyone have an idea of how long it is taking to grant citizenship? Or even via the old way, how long, roughly has it been taking for people? Thanks!

 

[Che1990]

On that last point, the law goes to great lengths to mention that you cannot have left the Argentine territory at any point in the last 2 years. So, if you have been on a day trip to Uruguay or Chile or left the country for any reason, the clock resets and you've got to start again.

This last point is horrendous.

And under what logic? My other half and I been has been legal residents since 2016, with permanent residency since 2019, now can’t apply to be citizens as we’ve been on holiday abroad in the last 2 years…

…because we’re honest, hardworking people and earn enough money to vacation overseas - surely they want people like us?!?.

Also clarify that we didn’t leave Argentine once between July 2019 and May 2023 so did the complete the 2 years citizenship requirement.

It’s ridiculous

 

[Alby]

And in many cases logically impossible: in order to lodge the paperwork for their claim after two continuous years in the country, some will have to leave the country (thus breaking the continuous stay just as it is about to complete) in order to collect the apostilled documents Migraciones demands from their home country to support the application.

 

[Lanick]

Someone will take this to court to appeal against. And the court will overrule it. It doesn’t make any sense. You can’t take one’s freedom to travel. You can say 30,90 days in a year but expecting to not leave for 2 years is out of logic.

 

[steveinbsas]

And in many cases logically impossible: in order to lodge the paperwork for their claim after two continuous years in the country, some will have to leave the country (thus breaking the continuous stay just as it is about to complete) in order to collect the apostilled documents Migraciones demands from their home country to support the application.

Which countries (if any) actually require the physical presence of their citizens who are "collecting" apostilled documents required by Argentine migraciones?

I applied for and renewed temporary residency three times from 2006 to 2009 and citizenship in 2012. I never had to leave Argentina for the purpose of obtaining an Apostilled document and I didn't use a service like Apostille.com, either.

My brother (in the hometown) and my copyright attorney (whose office was in downtown Chicago) were instrumental in collecting and sending the documents, especially the updated, notarized letter from the hometown bank that was reqired for the annual renewals of my Argentine residency at migraciones.

When I applied for citizenship in 2012 I was able to provide an "original" state issued birth certificate with the Apostille without getting a "new" one. I had ordered several of them in 2006. The court did not say anything about the Apostille being six years earlier.

I've never seen any posts that requireed US citizens to apply for an Apostilled document in person, so that's why I asked if any other countries require their citizens to do so.

 

[nikad]

We are going through the process under the older rules. I believe the main issue with the 2 yr continuous residency, has to do with the country of origin background check. Because they do not want you to present it, and then leave because you can commit a crime during that window and still get citizenship, ie, the authorities would be accused of promoting terrorism for example. You really need to ask specifically about your situation.

We were at the judicial offices last week and this is what was explained to us ( DH has 20 yrs as a perm resident in Arg, and we travelled last February, we were told it was not an issue, but that when you present background check until citizenship is granted you must remain in the country or inform that you will be abroad and only present the background check certificate when you return. This was their explanation, not sure if there is a different one.