Considering retiring in Argentina but have so many questions

[jantango]

Argentina is a wonderful country and overall I think I enjoy it more than the USA, especially for retirement. I think the healthcare system is FAR better in Argentina vs. the USA.

And Buenos Aires is a wonderful city that I enjoy more than ever after 24 years, especially being retired with free concerts on my agenda in so many excellent venues. I agree the healthcare is better than the USA.

 

[earlyretirement]

(1) The BBB is not a government agency or a part of the judicial branch. They do not have the authority to force a business to resolve consumer complaints. This means that a business can ignore a BBB complaint. (2) The small claims court is a special court where disputes are resolved quickly and inexpensively. Hands down my choice would be #2.

When I mentioned the BBB I didn't mention it to mean that it's an official governmental agency. I just meant that generally in the USA there are outlets to revolve disputes. While the BBB complaint doesn't guarantee resolution, generally companies do feel some pressure when there are complaints especially listed online.


I've found that most companies/people in Argentina, generally don't care as much. Many have a "screw you I will make as much as I can today and not worry about tomorrow" vs. a path forward to do a lot of long term mutually beneficial path.


I've seen that time and time again with various companies and people. Even companies or people that I've had good luck with for many years, I'll notice that they too sometimes will eventually "exit scam" someone. Where they don't care about their reputation and will screw over a client and take money.

That's the annoying thing about Argentina that I've found that happens there far more than in a first world country.

 

[Agribotics]

Where they don't care about their reputation and will screw over a client and take money.

That's the annoying thing about Argentina that I've found that happens there far more than in a first world country.

Shamelessly living off other people's money is a top down phenomenon in Argentina.

 

[zensailor]

Shamelessly living off other people's money is a top down phenomenon in Argentina.

Wait a minute !!!!..... Argentina isn't even a contender in this ''phenomenon'' ...... American politicians take the gold ...... at every level ....in every category.

 

[Agribotics]

Wait a minute !!!!..... Argentina isn't even a contender in this ''phenomenon'' ...... American politicians take the gold ...... at every level ....in every category.

There are still enough Americans who create wealth rather than confiscate it to make up for America's parasitic politicians, which explains this:
1.00 USD = 402.8000 Argentine Peso (ARS)

 

[Ries]

When a lowly son in law can get the $2 Billion dollar influencer prize, Argentina is a very pale imitation.
As for "creating wealth", libertarians will never forget the ol SS recepient Ayn Rand and her fantasies.
In reality, there are a lot small businesses in Argentina that employ people, make products, and many actually export things.
the issue with the exchange rate is much more complicated than some kind of geographic inferiority issue.
Dollar denominated loans, going back a hundred years, colonial raw material exploitation, and an actual social services network with free health care, education, and subsidized utilities, transportation, and price controls on basic foods all contribute more to the people of Argentina than the nonexistent taxes paid by Musk, Gates, or Bezos...

 

[zensailor]

There are still enough Americans who create wealth rather than confiscate it to make up for America's parasitic politicians, which explains this:
1.00 USD = 402.8000 Argentine Peso (ARS)

WRONG

 

[Agribotics]

Argentina's pervasive sense of entitlement and its victim mythology are the root causes of its perennial economic mailaise. Until it recognizes that the only way to be prosperous is to create wealth rather than take it it's destined to remain in the poor house.

 

[sts7049]

free health care, education, and subsidized utilities, transportation, and price controls on basic foods all contribute more to the people of Argentina

price controls don't work, period. this fantasy land where governments believe they can control it always fails. ask yourself, is it working now?

argentina is also unable to pay for these things, which is why they keep begging for money. and they now have created generations of people who know nothing else besides the government tit. which is just how the government likes it.

not to say that i don't believe in some level of government provided services, but first you need to be able to afford it. even the US is increasingly becoming unable to do so.

 

[TonyTigre]

When a lowly son in law can get the $2 Billion dollar influencer prize, Argentina is a very pale imitation.
As for "creating wealth", libertarians will never forget the ol SS recepient Ayn Rand and her fantasies.
In reality, there are a lot small businesses in Argentina that employ people, make products, and many actually export things.
the issue with the exchange rate is much more complicated than some kind of geographic inferiority issue.
Dollar denominated loans, going back a hundred years, colonial raw material exploitation, and an actual social services network with free health care, education, and subsidized utilities, transportation, and price controls on basic foods all contribute more to the people of Argentina than the nonexistent taxes paid by Musk, Gates, or Bezos...

Putting aside how Musk, Gates, or Bezos lean politically... It's simply unfair to say they have not paid any taxes. People can debate whether they or anyone else have paid their so called 'fair share' of taxes, but they have in fact paid billions in taxes directly, but more importantly, their companies and their companies' suppliers/vendors/resellers/partners, have created jobs, products, services, and capital gains that likely resulted in trillions in tax revenue globally. As for Gates, he has already donated over $50 billion to charity and intends to donate 'virtually all' of his remaining net worth over time. Bezos's ex has donated $14 billion, while he has donated $2.4, but committed to $10 billion so far. Musk has donated at least $5.7 billion. Anyone want to claim that the US government or any government should get the money they donated to charity instead? Many billionaires simply believe they are better at making use of their fortunate for good than their government.

I would also like to add Warren Buffett to the list as he's truly a great philanthropist billionaire. He founded The Giving Pledge in 2010 with Bill Gates, whereby billionaires pledge to give away at least half of their fortunes. He has pledged to give away 99% and lives very modestly.

We should celebrate success instead of demonizing it.