Controversial Argentinian Video

[PhilipDT]

Actually can anybody do that? Replace the audio with the rocky training song and upload it to youtube?

 

[expatinowncountry]

Actually can anybody do that? Replace the audio with the rocky training song and upload it to youtube?

Hahaha... It could also be "You are the best" like in Smithy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZtU-nRYem0

 

[pauper]

IOC expresses concern over Argentine ad

LONDON (AP) The IOC criticized an Argentine TV ad Friday that links the London Olympics to Argentina's dispute with Britain over the Falkland Islands, calling it a blatant attempt to use the games for political purposes

 

[dennisr]

This kind of stuff (video) insights some nut case to make their own political statement and carnage begins. *Unconscionable act.

"Old Billy was right: let's kill all the lawyers - kill 'em tonight"

 

[nicoenarg]

...a comparisons between Tony Blair and George Bush with Hitler are far closer as they not only manipulated their people with lies but they did with extreme consequences for the lives of thousand of Iraqis...

Not defending Bush or Blair but your statement assumes that the Iraqis were living lives rather peacefully before(?) or am I wrong. Because surely having lived in the middle east, you know that to not be true. Or did you move there after 2003?

The American invasion of Iraq in 2003 only affected Iraqis in one way. Before they used to get murdered (en masse) with no media attention. Now they get murdered with media attention. It was just as bad before, if not worse, most of the world just didn't know about it or care about it.

The people killing innocent people of Iraq right now are the same ones who did it before. Now they can easily blame it on the American invasion. Before they didn't need to.

 

[expatinowncountry]

Not defending Bush or Blair but your statement assumes that the Iraqis were living lives rather peacefully before(?) or am I wrong. Because surely having lived in the middle east, you know that to not be true. Or did you move there after 2003?

The American invasion of Iraq in 2003 only affected Iraqis in one way. Before they used to get murdered (en masse) with no media attention. Now they get murdered with media attention. It was just as bad before, if not worse, most of the world just didn't know about it or care about it.

The people killing innocent people of Iraq right now are the same ones who did it before. Now they can easily blame it on the American invasion. Before they didn't need to.

This is an unrelated issue not addressing the point made by the OP accordingly to which CFK is similar to Hitler because she (and I copy and paste) "used "affronts" and "offenses" by foreign powers to both distract from spriraling economic issues and raise nationlistic pride."

If this applies to CFK, it does also to Bush and Maggie... otherwise... let me spell it clearly for you... you will be applying D O U B L E S T A N D A R D S in your comparison.

Now back to your point, the Iraqi war was unfair and based on a BIG LIE. Ask Iraqis if they would have chosen to be invaded... and there you have the answer to your statement. It was not US/British business to get involved in Iraq, neither they were welcomed by the people they were supposed to be saving from Saddam. If you think otherwise, you are been extremely naive about the geopolitics of oil.

 

[notebook.fix]

Agreed, great point. I think this Government is going to keep pulling out the distraction cards for a while to go especially with the criminal investigation of Boludou threatening to expose all the rotten corruption under the Ks.

YPF, Falklands, New Abortion Laws etc etc anything to try to distract the public & stay in power... the smoke & mirror machine is running at full steam.

Agree. Really bad taste. Can you imagine if the roles were reversed?

One could make the assumption that CFK must be an idiot given the stuff she does. However, I reiterate my call - she's a brilliant tactician. She doesn't really want the Falklands for Argentina. If she did then she'd be doing EXACTLY the opposite of what she's doing. What she wants is the patriotic beating of the drums and she get's it by using the Falklands to rile people up. Pure and simple in my book. If you read any history on Adolf Hitler he did the same thing. Only he didn't use the Falkland Islands.

 

[nicoenarg]

This is an unrelated issue not addressing the point made by the OP accordingly to which CFK is similar to Hitler because she (and I copy and paste) "used "affronts" and "offenses" by foreign powers to both distract from spriraling economic issues and raise nationlistic pride."

If this applies to CFK, it does also to Bush and Maggie... otherwise... let me spell it clearly for you... you will be applying D O U B L E S T A N D A R D S in your comparison.

Now back to your point, the Iraqi war was unfair and based on a BIG LIE. Ask Iraqis if they would have chosen to be invaded... and there you have the answer to your statement. It was not US/British business to get involved in Iraq, neither they were welcomed by the people they were supposed to be saving from Saddam. If you think otherwise, you are been extremely naive about the geopolitics of oil.

There is a reason I only quoted that specific part of your post and not the rest of it. Yes there are a lot of leaders that are like Hitler in the way of manipulating people to get what they wanted. Bush and Blair are two of those leaders.

Yes, I am deviating from the OP because you brought it up. I am specifically talking about how the Iraqis were affected. I have some very good friends who are Iraqis who used to visit Dubai for business. They were glad that Americans invaded and got rid of Saddam. They were not happy that the American forces did not clear out Saddam's forces and that Al Qaeda was allowed to run amok. There were other Iraqis I knew, like the cousin of Saddam Hussein studying at the American University in Dubai, who were not very happy about the invasion (there were also a lot of regular Iraqis who were happier under Saddam).

No one is under the illusion that the invasion was a humanitarian undertaking. I would consider Britain and America very stupid countries if they put their own people's lives at risk to save others. I would consider those people who expect America and Britain to do that very stupid as well.

What I was specifically talking about was your point about Iraqis losing their lives. And the point that the American and British forces are directly responsible for those lives being lost. I can say the same thing here, you are being extremely naive about the situation in Iraq.

But yes, you and I agree that tehre are politicians who are Hitler-like, and to go back to THAT point, CFK is one of those politicians.

 

[westofwall]

There is a reason I only quoted that specific part of your post and not the rest of it. Yes there are a lot of leaders that are like Hitler in the way of manipulating people to get what they wanted. Bush and Blair are two of those leaders.

Yes, I am deviating from the OP because you brought it up. I am specifically talking about how the Iraqis were affected. I have some very good friends who are Iraqis who used to visit Dubai for business. They were glad that Americans invaded and got rid of Saddam. They were not happy that the American forces did not clear out Saddam's forces and that Al Qaeda was allowed to run amok. There were other Iraqis I knew, like the cousin of Saddam Hussein studying at the American University in Dubai, who were not very happy about the invasion (there were also a lot of regular Iraqis who were happier under Saddam).

No one is under the illusion that the invasion was a humanitarian undertaking. I would consider Britain and America very stupid countries if they put their own people's lives at risk to save others. I would consider those people who expect America and Britain to do that very stupid as well.

What I was specifically talking about was your point about Iraqis losing their lives. And the point that the American and British forces are directly responsible for those lives being lost. I can say the same thing here, you are being extremely naive about the situation in Iraq.

But yes, you and I agree that tehre are politicians who are Hitler-like, and to go back to THAT point, CFK is one of those politicians.

--Some of you may be familiar with Goodwin's Law, which states that "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

--Something similar always seems to happen on these boards, wherein any discussion of Argentine politics (and many other topics) quickly devolves into a "Bush was an idiot then and/or Obama is an idiot now" rants...it would be nice if people could either give that tired subject a rest or start another thread on the board to vent.

Yes, I know it will never happen, but I can dream, can't I??

p.s., Cristina's "Wag the Dog" strategy seems to working for her in the short term, though I imagine we'll be seeing her escape the Casa Rosada via helicopter before her term ends. I've got my popcorn ready...

 

[expatinowncountry]

But yes, you and I agree that tehre are politicians who are Hitler-like, and to go back to THAT point, CFK is one of those politicians.

And so they were Bush and Thatcher... in the sense the OP was referring...