Death In The Streets: Venezuela Has Descended Into Chaos

[ajoknoblauch]

Although I wouldn't say that the Republicans are immigrant friendly I also cannot recall any senior Republican politician blaming any US problems on the immigrant population. They spend 99% of their time blaming everything on Obama-care. They just don't have a lot of time to talk about immigrants. Can you cite any specific statements by any specific senior Republican politician to justify your charge that the Republican playbook calls for scapegoating immigrants?

Thanks, Bob

How about the charming Steve King of Iowa?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EL0r6RvtM

 

[bobg]

How about the charming Steve King of Iowa?

Is that the clip you meant to post? It's not a clip of Steve King saying anything. It's a clip of someone quoting Steve King - maybe cherry picking the quotes maybe not, maybe quoting out of context maybe not. Steve King might well be a jerk. But I'm not going to reach that conclusion based on what someone else says about him. Especially someone who uses much more sarcasm than logic and facts. Moreover, I did not hear the speaker in the clip quoting Steve King blaming any US problems on immigrants.

It was your contention that the Republican playbook promotes scapegoating immigrants. But 1) I doubt that Steve King is high enough in the Republican hierarchy to be given credit for anything in the Republican playbook; 2) If you want to pick on Steve King do it based on what he says, not what someone else says he says; and 3) if you contend that the Republican playbook promotes scapegoating immigrants you need to find a senior Republican politician who is actually scapegoating immigrants.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Is that the clip you meant to post? It's not a clip of Steve King saying anything. It's a clip of someone quoting Steve King - maybe cherry picking the quotes maybe not, maybe quoting out of context maybe not. Steve King might well be a jerk. But I'm not going to reach that conclusion based on what someone else says about him. Especially someone who uses much more sarcasm than logic and facts. Moreover, I did not hear the speaker in the clip quoting Steve King blaming any US problems on immigrants.

It was your contention that the Republican playbook promotes scapegoating immigrants. But 1) I doubt that Steve King is high enough in the Republican hierarchy to be given credit for anything in the Republican playbook; 2) If you want to pick on Steve King do it based on what he says, not what someone else says he says; and 3) if you contend that the Republican playbook promotes scapegoating immigrants you need to find a senior Republican politician who is actually scapegoating immigrants.

The GOP "leadership" doesn't need to do so openly. All they need to do is grovel in front of the "base."

 

[Redpossum]

http://youtu.be/PSozfI9s-uA


'nuff said

 

[bobg]

The GOP "leadership" doesn't need to do so openly. All they need to do is grovel in front of the "base."

In my opinion all politicians say what they need to say to get elected, and do what they need to do to keep the contributions rolling in.
If the treatment of illegal immigrants is something your are interested in I hope you are aware of the fact that 34,000 illegal immigrants must, by law, be incarcerated. It just makes me sick to my stomach. The law which imposes that requirement is a Homeland Security spending bill and the provision was inserted by Robert Bird, a revered Democratic member of Congress (now deceased). Republicans have been happy to defend this mean-spirited law. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-24/congress-fuels-private-jails-detaining-34-000-immigrants.html) Republicans have no monopoly on nasty.

 

[steveinbsas]

Perhaps the latest update from Venezuela will get this thread back on topic.

As I read about the price increases during the crisis in Venezuela, I thought of this year's price increases in Argentina and wondered how much worse it could get, and how fast.

It looks like the "fair price law" isn't working.

Price controls usually (if not always) lead to scarcity.

Venezuela April 27


2 months and a half since the protest started. Not much advance can be seen.

Fights with the Guardia Nacional and state police continue. Now most of the fights do not start in the barricades but when the Guardia and police enter neighborhoods, rich, middle class and in the poorest (barrios)where is staring to happen too, with the purpose of arrest anyone that seems a protester. The government followers are of course blowing the whistle about anyone that protest.

A few days ago the government approved a law that any protest, group reunion or wathever seems like it must be authorized… by the government… 10 years of jail for that one.

Some people is tired some people is angry, the scarcity by official numbers is 29.4% and in some places 45%, take in account that that is a global number, products like cooking oil (traditionally corn oil here), has an scarcity of…. 100% … coffee (and Venezuela was one of the biggest exporters a decade ago) 94.2%, Powdered milk 90.2%, sugar 90 %, toilet paper 87%. http://www.elunivers...conomia/1404... ( the link for the news in Spanish).

The annual inflation from march 2013 to march 2014 is 60%, their fair price law weren’t able to do a thing, and of course got everything worse. The government always replies that” this is a conspiracy by the opposition the international right and USA” as always. But everyone in the government has houses and investments in the USA or Panama or Europe.

The violence continues to escalate in my University, there have been attacks almost every day, the entrance and office of my faculty was destroyed (Since the government doesn’t control the universities and inside the big majority is always opposed to the gov, they send their armed gangs to attack and rob).

We really don’t know what will happen, or if we will win, everyone knows how bad things are, but most of the people is terrified of the armed gangs, the Guardia Nacional (Yesterday they went into a barrio and killed a 12 years old boy “by mistake” and said that they mistake him with a fugitive from a near jail… jail from no one escaped by the way) . The gangs pass in motorcycles in front of my house every night, they must be like 20 or 30 well armed, so I can understand the fear, I’m also afraid myself. But if we do nothing, we will live as slaves (if scarcity and violence doesn’t kill us first), or probably they will end killing anyone that they know is opposed to them like in Cuba, which is where they want to get us.
I think that if we don’t get out of this soon we could end with a +50 years regime like Cuba.


Read more at http://www.galtsgulc...Cl11dk2ZsaXW.99

 

[ghost]

It's getting worse in Venezuela...much worse than landlords being forced to sell properties leased for twenty years to their tenants.

This was published today:

"Death in the streets, rationing by fingerprints and a general on the run: how oil-rich Venezuela has descended into chaos"

http://www.telegraph...on-the-run.html

Blame it all on 21st century socialism.

This was posted to the web late last November:

Venezuela: a shining example of how not to help the poor"

http://blogs.spectat...-help-the-poor/

The big question now is, could what is happening now in Venezuela also happen in Argentina?

This was published six weeks ago:

"Argentina and Brazil Preparing For Venezuela Spillover"

http://guardianlv.co...uela-spillover/

"Why The Future Is Here in The South" RedFuzzie

 

[steveinbsas]

Does the the latest news from Venezuela make anyone here think of what could happen here?

"Venezuela’s government announced the start of electricity rationing in western Zulia state as well as water rationing in Caracas to reduce demand on the power grid, a day after Ford Motor Co. (F) halted production in Latin America’s largest oil exporter.

The second-largest U.S. automaker joins competitor Toyota Motor Corp. (7203) and Dutch truck-maker CNH Industrial NV (CNHI) in suspending assembly in the South American country because of the difficulty of obtaining dollars to import parts from the government.

Shortages of everything from water to car parts and flour to pregnancy tests come after three months of protests against the government of President Nicolas Maduro that have left at least 41 people dead. The government yesterday said it will start rationing electricity and water as drought drains hydroelectric reservoirs and water tanks."

Read more at http://www.bloomberg...a-cuts-gas.html

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Venezuela has become Galt's Gulch.

 

[steveinbsas]

Venezuela has become Galt's Gulch.

This kind of remark is how a Fulbright Scholar reveals his intellectual abilities?