How Hard Is It To Get Out Of Buenos Aires?

[Redpossum]

Or current conflict on going for the small piece of real estate in relevance but important for the Russos or to the EU~US alliances.

World war has begun for reason much in miniscle meaning than for exsample. Wait till the two starts launching ICBM to each other...

And as far as world economy, 30 + % of energy needed for the EU is procured right now from mr. putin's land. So if conflict excalates, then we all going to see another world economy meltdown and then the US is going to be very scary place to be in..

So perhaps best to be in the land that does not rely too much from outside conomy co-existence and that is Argentina..

This is an excellent point.

Iran has been under sanctions since the year of the Revolution, and the net effect has been to force Iran to become largely self-sufficient. I hadn't previously thought of it in quite those terms, but now I see that the strict import controls in Argentina have functioned somewhat in the manner of self-imposed sanctions. And so, as you assert, there would logically tend to be a very similar effect of learning to become self-sufficient.

Thanks for pointing that out to me!

 

[internationalguy]

What? Why?

Why is the dollar going to imminently collapse?

I can't image how a devaluation massive enough to cause the type of effects you're talking about could ever take place.

Because the dollar is hanging by a thread. The only thing holding it together is the fact that the petro dollar is making the dollar barely manage to remain the world reserve currency. All it takes is a tiny shift in world politics and a domino effect of countries dumping dollars and trading oil in other currencies for the dollar to lose it's remaining strength. Can't you see Putin laughing in our faces? Can't you see us losing influence and control? We might be printing as much money as Argentina, yet we don't face consequences (yet) because everyone wants (not everyone anymore) dollars. When the time comes NO ONE will want dollars, and that day TSWHTF.

The effects I'm talking about are not the consequences of the massive devaluation of one currency with limited regional influence. If the dollar crashes, the whole world crashes with it. Only heavily diversified or heavily isolated nations might dodge some of the bullets.

 

[internationalguy]

Hysterical and Texas. Why not stick to rewriting text books.

Why don't you go see if the Camporas need another thug.

 

[gusgutier]

No, no, that's OK. I was speaking rhetorically. There is, in fact, a part of me that feels I am something of a coward for ceasing to speak out, something of a coward for running away instead of staying and trying to help fix the problem. Fortunately, the more pragmatic side of my personality is in charge. And that pragmatic side doesn't think much of tilting at windmills

Hey man . take it easy. I´s really ok. I undrstood tour rethoric and perhpas my answer sounded rude, but for sure you noticed that English is not my first language. I tried to say that I have no authority at all to judge your behaviour in any sense. and I was far to wish trigger you an uncomfortable situation.

 

[steveinbsas]

If you really think things a scary in San Diego then you are going to need adult diapers in Argentina.

Well, I think that all depends...

 

[steveinbsas]

There are many North Americans who do not see Latin America as a viable alternative to the USA, especially after TSHTF.

Here is the first reply to the first topic I submitted in the Galt's Gulch Online website. Those who click on the link following his comment will be able to see the post to which he replied...as well as additional comments, some of which baexpats may find very interesting:

"In order to know what is going to happen in Latin America, one need only look at history. It doesn't matter how bad things get here in the US, they will be far worse in most if not all of the rest of the world. Especially Latin America. I know the culture, speak the language and can readily make a living there.

There is not a chance in hell I would go to Latin America during the crisis that is coming. And my advice to anyone already there would be to get the hell out now before you get stuck there and can't get back.

It is beyond my understanding how ANYONE can possibly believe there is safe haven in the land of military dictatorships, terrorist communist guerrillas, hyper-inflation, rampant graft and total political corruption... all of which experience a rebirth in South America during every economic disaster these countries suffer.

In fact, there are few parts of the world more blatantly predictable than South America. Bolivia has had more governments than years as a nation!!! These are nations utterly incapable of self government for any extended period of time. Hell, Peru's current president is the SAME president who stole EVERYTHING, every LAST PENNY from the national treasury in the late 80's. He and his pals took all of their country's money, put it in their own pockets and fled the country. Really!!! No kidding!!! And they really were dumb enough to put this same jackass back in office 20+ years later!!!

Now, if any of you are DUMB enough to go to Latin America anyway, after all this, be assured I will personally give you a bad time about it for the rest of your days, or until the country you have chosen throws you in prison for being a gringo, whichever comes first. (I'm betting on the latter.)

Read more at http://www.galtsgulc...HyjcpS5qm0aO.99

 

[sleslie23]

Its the "Truth of Matias": always claim some "facts", often add phrases like "these are the facts, no opinions" or "you have to know this" and stick to them. If the evidence against the Matias truth is getting too strong, he'll just go offline, wait a few hours and switch to another thread to enlighten the people. His specialty is making comparisons to Europe, e.g., Argentina has way more supermarkets or how Europeans see Hitler - even more funny than reading what he writes about economy

All true, but if he is REALLY backed into a corner (usually through his own words) he just starts shouting "troll!"

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

Because the dollar is hanging by a thread. The only thing holding it together is the fact that the petro dollar is making the dollar barely manage to remain the world reserve currency. All it takes is a tiny shift in world politics and a domino effect of countries dumping dollars and trading oil in other currencies for the dollar to lose it's remaining strength. Can't you see Putin laughing in our faces? Can't you see us losing influence and control? We might be printing as much money as Argentina, yet we don't face consequences (yet) because everyone wants (not everyone anymore) dollars. When the time comes NO ONE will want dollars, and that day TSWHTF.

The effects I'm talking about are not the consequences of the massive devaluation of one currency with limited regional influence. If the dollar crashes, the whole world crashes with it. Only heavily diversified or heavily isolated nations might dodge some of the bullets.

Actually, the Dollar is to be still the world preferential currency. Whereever you travel, the merchants of them contries will always ask for the Dollar. Not much Euros nor Yens are so well received nor recognised as the still venerable Dollar.

But now the America, meaning US o A, will be again ruling cause the shale oil production and the natural gas supply will reinvigorate the once prominent Dollar again. I was in Peru and Chile not long ago and its republics best and preferred currency, the US green backs, no Euros nor Yen comes close to the Dollar prestige enjoyed still abroad !

 

[Ries]

Anyone who is coming to Argentina to flee something is doomed to misery.
And we are all doomed to a couple of years of complaining, before they finally bail.

Come to Argentina because you want to, because you LIKE Argentina.

Otherwise, I would suggest rural Mexico, Belize, Panama, Thailand, Goa, Bali, or some other slacker paradise, where beer is cheap and anything goes.

Argentina is complex, and definitely an acquired taste.
It has much to reward you, if you are openminded and care to look, but its a miserable place for hipsters looking for cheap.

 

[Redpossum]

Anyone who is coming to Argentina to flee something is doomed to misery.
And we are all doomed to a couple of years of complaining, before they finally bail.
Come to Argentina because you want to, because you LIKE Argentina.

How are we supposed to know whether we like Argentina until we've been there?

Otherwise, I would suggest rural Mexico, Belize, Panama, Thailand, Goa, Bali, or some other slacker paradise, where beer is cheap and anything goes.

Mexico? Ni modo, hue! and the rest all have disqualifying factors.

Argentina is complex, and definitely an acquired taste.
It has much to reward you, if you are openminded and care to look, but its a miserable place for hipsters looking for cheap.

Words of wisdom, no doubt. Much respect, and sincere thanks for the advice. I'll try to keep that in mind.