Immigration changes: Health, Education, Deportation

[steveinbsas]

So overstaying is finished now?

Anyone who overstays in the future will still have to pay the multa when they leave, but the question that will take some time to know the answer to is if and when migraciones will start issuing deportation orders to those who have overstayed as well as how many previous overstays (as well as their frequency) will result in the denial of entry.

 

[Warm_breeze]

Anyone who overstays in the future will still have to pay the multa when they leave, but the question that will take some time to know the answer to is if and when migraciones will start issuing deportation orders to those who have overstayed as well as how many previous overstays (as well as their frequency) will result in the denial of entry.

Exactly this - I wonder how strictly it will be enforced. Current administration doesn't seem to mess around however.

I think it's going to pay off well to get legal.

 

[steveinbsas]

Anyone who overstays in the future will still have to pay the multa when they leave, but the question that will take some time to know the answer to is if and when migraciones will start issuing deportation orders to those who have overstayed as well as how many previous overstays (as well as their frequency) will result in the denial of entry.

No matter what actually happens in the near future regarding the new decree, it's conditions make it clear that the current administration and their supporters in the Senate and the Congress do not want foreigners who do not have legal residency to remain in the country.

The abuse of the tourist visa has been illegal for at least ten and perhaps fifteen years, but migracion officials at the border have most often been extremely kind harted regarding enforcment of laws that already existed a least a decade before the decree and will still exist even if it is voted down.

So, in the future, I think we may actually see the beginning of "the long awaited crackdown" on visa runs and overstays, resulting in an increase in refusals of entry into the country.

And, perhaps an end to threads posted by foreigners who just want to come and go as they please, in violation of the laws of a country in which they are tourists:

Family on a tourist visa (planning to stay a couple of years)

Hi everyone, I'm sorry if this has been asked plenty of times, but I can't find the answer for our specific case. We are a family of four (two adults and two small children) on a tourist visa, who are planning to follow a schedule similar to this one every year (our son started elementary...

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PS: Even if the new decree is voted down, migraciones will continue to exist as it was before the decree, perhaps with a greater zeal than ever to deport foreigners who aren't in compliance will previous regulations.

 

[steveinbsas]

The abuse of the tourist visa has been illegal for at least ten and perhaps fifteen years...

...in the (perhaps very near) future, I think we may actually see the beginning of "the long awaited crackdown" on visa runs and overstays, resulting in an increase in the denial of entry into the country.

This was posted in 2006:

Has The Long Awaited Crackdown On 90 Day Overstays Begun?

This was posted yesterday in a thread asking about getting an FBI report (in a hurry): I recently got a citation from migrations saying that I needed to show up to the migrations office within 5 days. This is here in Cordoba. I showed up the next day. When I showed up they told me that I have...

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PS: Over the years I have been surprised how tolerant migraciones officials have been with foreigners who were clearly in violation of the regulations that apply to transitory residency, often allowing them to reenter with only a gentle warning, and occasionally with a not so harsh scolding.

Those days are lilkey to be over in the very near future, even if the decree is voted down.

If the new decree is confirmed, and, especially if migraciones has control of the citizenship processes, so will be the days of applying for citizenship without already having (at the least?) temporary residency and a DNI for two years, as lawyers will no longer be able to file citizenship cases at the courts on behalf of their clients who do not meet the requirements for temporary residency.

I imagine that those lawyers will make every effort they can in the future to see that the power of citizenship is returned to the federal courts, but that will take time, time that foreigners who cannot meet the requirements for temporary residency simply won't have.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

So overstaying is finished now?

Visa runs are over. I suggest to apply for citizenship under old rules before the Federal Courts where you do not need the 2 years to apply.

 

[steveinbsas]

This was posted in 2006:

Has The Long Awaited Crackdown On 90 Day Overstays Begun?

This was posted yesterday in a thread asking about getting an FBI report (in a hurry): I recently got a citation from migrations saying that I needed to show up to the migrations office within 5 days. This is here in Cordoba. I showed up the next day. When I showed up they told me that I have...

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Should have been 2016

 

[Nurhak]

I dont know the reality for other countries.But my consulate at my country said this.Is this mean even with sufficient funds Milei goverment blocks immigrants ?
En relación a su consulta, cumplimos en informarle que actualmente no se estamos tramitando visas rentistas en el Consulado ya que, según fuera comunicado por las autoridades argentinas, existe una imposibilidad del extranjero para abrir una cuenta en el país para acreditar el ingreso de los fondos requeridos en este tipo de visa.



Para información sobre residencia temporaria como rentista puede consular la siguiente página web: https://www.argentina.gob.ar/servicio/obtener-una-residencia-temporaria-como-rentista



Quedamos en disposición.



Saludos cordiales,

 

[steveinbsas]

I dont know the reality for other countries.But my consulate at my country said this.Is this mean even with sufficient funds Milei goverment blocks immigrants ?

En relación a su consulta, cumplimos en informarle que actualmente no se estamos tramitando visas rentistas en el Consulado ya que, según fuera comunicado por las autoridades argentinas, existe una imposibilidad del extranjero para abrir una cuenta en el país para acreditar el ingreso de los fondos requeridos en este tipo de visa.

Google translation;

"Regarding your inquiry, we hereby inform you that we are currently not processing annuity visas at the Consulate because, according to Argentine authorities, it is impossible for foreigners to open an account in the country to verify the deposit of the funds required for this type of visa."

Is there anything in the new decree that makes it "impossible for foreigners to open an account in the country to verify the deposit of the funds required for this type of visa?"

If not, perhaps the consulate in your country simply vannot process an application for the visa rentista because it's impossible for you to open a bank account for the visa rentista until after you have received a precaria from migraciones while you are actually in Argentina and have applied for the visa rentista here.

Para información sobre residencia temporaria como rentista puede consular la siguiente página web: https://www.argentina.gob.ar/servicio/obtener-una-residencia-temporaria-como-rentista

It looks like applying for the visa rentista in Argentina will be your only option, provided you can open the bank account with a precaria as part of the process. You will have to be in the country to open the bank account.

 

[FrankPintor]

En relación a su consulta, cumplimos en informarle que actualmente no se estamos tramitando visas rentistas en el Consulado ya que, según fuera comunicado por las autoridades argentinas, existe una imposibilidad del extranjero para abrir una cuenta en el país para acreditar el ingreso de los fondos requeridos en este tipo de visa.

My suspicion, because of the slightly iffy Spanish transcription, was that " existe una imposibilidad del extranjero" should actually be " existe una imposibilidad desde el extranjero", which would make perfect sense. And work grammatically as well. Maybe Sr. @Nurhak could confirm.

 

[Nurhak]

My suspicion, because of the slightly iffy Spanish transcription, was that " existe una imposibilidad del extranjero" should actually be " existe una imposibilidad desde el extranjero", which would make perfect sense. And work grammatically as well. Maybe Sr. @Nurhak could confirm.

I am using translate for messages but ı copied direct text from Consulado General y Centro de Promoción de la República Argentina en Estambul email.Can you explain two possible difference between two sentences.