Industria Argentina , Is There Anything That Doesnt Break?

[Matiasba]

Huh?
I have 2 sons, and between the 4 of us in our family, we have owned around 20 ipods over the years.
I have replaced batteries in at least three different generations of ipods.
Its no big deal- you need a tiny screwdriver that costs a dollar, and fifteen minutes.
The batteries, like all ipod parts, are easily available online in most industrial countries (not, of course, in Argentina…)
I have also replaced batteries, screens, and other internal parts in iphones.
again, beyond a screwdriver or two, this is a very easy thing to do.
Same thing with screens and batteries in macbooks- easy, fast, and, if you buy the parts in the USA online, cheap.

Of course, all my life, I have refused to be a "consumer"- I carry a swiss army knife with a phillips screwdriver on it at all times, and I have always taken apart, and fixed, all kinds of things.

I saw a documentary from Catalonia and French TV which has several parts, several minutes, talking in english, about problems they have, for example, with printers in the US. They expain that Apple lost a trial because of this thing with Ipods. As the title says, you dont fix things anymore, you just throw it away and buy new stuff, much more simpler, much more cheaper, it is what fabricants want. I strongly recommend to watch the documentary, it takes an hour, but it surely worth it.

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[camberiu]

Camberiu-San, I said "vital components" for Cell phones .
CPU can be manufactured cheaply anywhere.
And of course, even my beloved SONY got to buy
them where more lower cost. I thought you were more analytical ...

Sure. Please clarify what those "vital components" are then.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

yes, but I think it is a myth that planned obsolesence or crappy things come only from China or southeast Asia. There was a big problem with Apple in the US a while ago that despite having a fachade of being friend to nature and protect the enviroment and all that stuff corporations do, they did not have a way to replace the batteries of Ipods. So once the batteries finished, you had to throw your Ipod to the trash. And thats just one example of millions. And do you know where that trash go? computers, printers, photo cameras, tvs, etc,? to African countries, like Ghana. The other side of the coin of consuming these stuff quickly is that the amount of trash is growing amazingly, so the "civilised" countries can have their new stuff but they have to export the trash to Africa. How long do the european or americans cell phones last? they change it every so often, like the same time they last in Argentina. Every 3 years everyone must change their cell phone because do not work anymore. So its not an Asia or Argentine problem, planned obsolesence began in the US, and it had got complicated more and more in the past ten years. Its not a matter of the industry in each country, this is a problem of corporations vs people, of big companies having us as prisoners till the day we die. it also means cosnumption and work, this is perfecct if an economy needs to grow, it is the way to continue the cycle,

Changing cell phones every so often is rarely a result of their failure to function. Rather, it's a function of rapid technological advancement (which Argentina does everything possible to avoid), and it's most often a matter of choice.

 

[Matiasba]

also look at this or google "Ipod dirty secret"

 

[sleslie23]

also look at this or google "Ipod dirty secret"

This issue is not specific to Apple, but is a general problem with lithium ion batteries. That said, I have a 5 year old iPod whose battery still works great. But the thing sits in a drawer because I replaced it with a phone that has more RAM and a faster processor. As Ajo says, obsolescence isn't always due to bad quality but the nature of technology.

Printers are notoriously bad, but the old adage "You get what you pay for" applies. If you pay 150 dollars for a printer, you will probably be buying another one within a year. Pay 1500-2000 for an HP printer and the thing may last 10-15 years.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

This issue is not specific to Apple, but is a general problem with lithium ion batteries. That said, I have a 5 year old iPod whose battery still works great. But the thing sits in a drawer because I replaced it with a phone that has more RAM and a faster processor. As Ajo says, obsolescence isn't always due to bad quality but the nature of technology.

Printers are notoriously bad, but the old adage "You get what you pay for" applies. If you pay 150 dollars for a printer, you will probably be buying another one within a year. Pay 1500-2000 for an HP printer and the thing may last 10-15 years.

I bought an HP Officejet 8600 Pro for less than US$200, and it's been brilliant. Of course, it you can even get it in Argentina, it probably costs ten times that.

 

[johnw100]

I bought an HP Officejet 8600 Pro for less than US$200, and it's been brilliant. Of course, it you can even get it in Argentina, it probably costs ten times that.

On mercadolibre for $2000pesos which isnt bad, even better on the blue dollar rate.

 

[sleslie23]

I bought an HP Officejet 8600 Pro for less than US$200, and it's been brilliant. Of course, it you can even get it in Argentina, it probably costs ten times that.

I'm sure that's a good printer. I was referring to HP professional printers. I've seen them last 10+ years. I've also seen them wear out and have to be serviced after printing 100s of pages per day 365 days a year.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

On mercadolibre for $2000pesos which isnt bad, even better on the blue dollar rate.

I presume that's a used price.

 

[Matt84]

I was just asking that! It's really amazing!