Is Argentina being sabotaged from abroad?

[Bajo_cero2]

Not according to this ranking: https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php

I don't know why but my mind went back to Operation Condor.

You are quoting the result of 70 years of boycott. By the end of the WWII 350 veterants of the Luftwaffe joined the AR air force while Peron developed a local jet.https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20170622/pilotos-nazis-argentina-aviacion-militar-1070169033.html
So, by 1979 Argentina was like South Africa under the Apartheid of North Korea.
So, of course there were and there are many international sanctions. To buy aircraft is banned by the UK.

 

[Redpossum]

So, you can lure voters by funding food stamps programs, paying off student loans, turning illegal immigrants into citizens overnight, and promising to "Make America Great Again", and at the same time remain a perfect democracy. But utilizing "bonos and other largesse" any country crosses the line, and becomes a dictatorship, right?

BOOM! Excellent reply

 

[Redpossum]

Yes, it is an EMBRAER EMB110 Bandeirante (a low cost utility aircraft) converted into a maritime patrol craft by adding an off-the-self naval search radar onto the nose.
You can do that with pretty much any commercial aircraft, like a private jet, a regional transport plane or even a drone. It is highly cost effective if your goal is to go after smugglers, illegal fishing, etc...

OK, thanks for the reply. The reference page I found shows it out of production since 1990, but also shows a price of 6 million in 2018. That actually sounds like a very practical solution for Argentina. With a range of 2000 km it certainly has the legs for the job.

 

[camberiu]

OK, thanks for the reply. The reference page I found shows it out of production since 1990, but also shows a price of 6 million in 2018. That actually sounds like a very practical solution for Argentina. With a range of 2000 km it certainly has the legs for the job.

$6 million brand new. More than 500 of these planes were manufactured and are widely available on the used market for a fraction of that price, and spare parts are widely available too.
And does not even have to be that specific plane. You can convert a Fokker 50, a BA 146, a Bombardier CRJ or any other widely available low cost civilian aircraft into a maritime patrol vessel.
The backbone of the British maritime patrol is the NIMROD, a British jetliner from the 1960s.

 

[camberiu]

You are quoting the result of 70 years of boycott. By the end of the WWII 350 veterants of the Luftwaffe joined the AR air force while Peron developed a local jet.https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20170622/pilotos-nazis-argentina-aviacion-militar-1070169033.html
So, by 1979 Argentina was like South Africa under the Apartheid of North Korea.
So, of course there were and there are many international sanctions. To buy aircraft is banned by the UK.

That is not entirely accurate. First of, ALL of South America was under a Jimmy Carter imposed arms embargo in 1979, not just Argentina. Brazil could not buy US weapons at the time either.
Also, despite the embargo, 1979 Argentina had HANDs DOWN the most powerful Airforce and Navies of Latin America, as the British, Europeans and Israelis were not constrained by the US embargo, and they gladly sold to Argentina anything they had the money to buy.
Back then, Argentina operated the ARA Hercules and the ARA Santísima Trinidad, two Type 42 Destroyers, the most advanced and powerful British designed class of warships in existence at the time. The most modern vessels operated by the Brazilian navy at the time were the most more modest Niteroi class and could not hold a candle to the Type 42.
The Argentina NAVY operated modern German Type 209 submarines since the early 70s. Brazil managed to replace their WWII era American made Submarines with modern German subs only in 1989.
In 1979 Argentina operated modern combat jets from France and Israel. The Super Etendard, the most advanced naval attack aircraft in existence at the time had just been ordered from France, with a stock of deadly Exocet missiles bundled with it. Argentina was incorporating smart weapons to its arsenal at a time where this was considered sci-fi stuff anywhere else in the region, including Brazil.
Also in the 1970s Argentina had partnered with Germany to produce a modern tank domestically, the TAM AND a light jetfighter, the FMA IA-63 Pampa.

So it is not accurate to paint 1979 Argentina as a mostly isolated and embargoed country, because it wasn't. It was actively partnering with European countries to buy military hardware and technology and had at the time the most advanced and powerful military in all of Latin America.

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[Jim Prideaux]

So, you can lure voters by funding food stamps programs, paying off student loans, turning illegal immigrants into citizens overnight, and promising to "Make America Great Again", and at the same time remain a perfect democracy. But utilizing "bonos and other largesse" any country crosses the line, and becomes a dictatorship, right?

No, in a word. Those are just cheap ways to buy votes. That’s not the source of the problem here in Argentina.

 

[Redpossum]

Well, it's not much, but here's at least some activity at an Argentine shipyard!

El Astillero Río Santiago volvió a construir y botar un barco tras 9 años de inactividad | Una lancha de instrucción de Cadetes de la Armada

La lancha escuela comenzó su proceso de diseño en 2015 y fue trabajada de manera exclusiva por el astillero para la Armada Argentina. Permitirá adquirir conocimiento de navegación.

www.pagina12.com.ar

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Well, it's not much, but here's at least some activity at an Argentine shipyard!

El Astillero Río Santiago volvió a construir y botar un barco tras 9 años de inactividad | Una lancha de instrucción de Cadetes de la Armada

La lancha escuela comenzó su proceso de diseño en 2015 y fue trabajada de manera exclusiva por el astillero para la Armada Argentina. Permitirá adquirir conocimiento de navegación.

www.pagina12.com.ar

According to La Nacion: “Amid applause, flags and with workers from the naval complex on board, the ship was launched in a triumphant water entry, despite the fact that the placement of the propellers and the axis line are still pending.” Launching a vessel that is u n d e r c o n s t r u c t i o n — most impressive.

 

[camberiu]

According to La Nacion: “Amid applause, flags and with workers from the naval complex on board, the ship was launched in a triumphant water entry, despite the fact that the placement of the propellers and the axis line are still pending.” Launching a vessel that is u n d e r c o n s t r u c t i o n — most impressive.

Makes perfect sense with elections around the corner.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Makes perfect sense with elections around the corner.

Exactly but it’s so desperate. If they can launch a ship that is still under construction, the possibilities are limitless. The absurdist in me is rather amused.