Living In Ba

[ElQueso]

Is the post for real?

One day I may tell the story of something I did with a ton of naivete related to using people like gestors to do something they convinced me could be done and I was taken for about $2000 USD. I'll leave it at that, with the comment that I am still so embarrassed by not having known that I cannot even now talk about it

Some of his other points seem quite naive, sure, but I can remember being that naive about a lot of things. it's one reason why I keep thinking he's not actually a troll, but someone in need of some serious advice.

 

[steveinbsas]

Some of his other points seem quite naive, sure, but I can remember being that naive about a lot of things. it's one reason why I keep thinking he's not actually a troll, but someone in need of some serious advice.

The first post I ever made in this forum (over eight years ago) was asking if I could get a DNI with a tourist visa.

 

[steveinbsas]

If your parents were actually Argentine you could actually become a permanent resident rather quickly. You could also become a citizen without having to deal with migraciones.

Does "pretending" your parents are Argentine entail providing false documentation to migraciones?

If not, it would be interesting to know how your gestor proposes to accomplish the ruse.

Providing false information to migraciones probably won't get you a resident visa and (subsequently) a DNI. It might actually get you deported.

PS to the above post: Under NO circumstances should you provide false information to migraciones. Having Argentine parents when you don't should be an obvious one.

I once posted that I regretted indicating that I was divorced when I applied for my residency. I may never get married again, but both my marriage license and divorce decree use my middle initial instead of my full name. If I ever want to get married in Argentina I believe that I will have to get a certificate from the US embassy stating that I am the same person as the one on those documents. Hopefully, that would not entail going to the embassy in person, but I simply don't know. I know I don't want to fly to BA just for that purpose.

Anyway, when I made the post about regretting that I indicated that I was divorced, a lawyer who is a member of this forum very quickly cited a case in which a foreigner was deported for falsely claiming that he was single when applying for citizenship. Uncovering that kind of information would require a background check that migraciones does not perform, but claiming to have Argentine parents and then NOT being able to prove it would no doubt lead to a shortened stay in Argentina.

 

[polostar88]

Why is it said it's difficult to get money into Argentina? Can't you do that with Xoom or even Western Union? I don't mean sending it to yourself, but having a friend or relative send you money here, isn't that relatively straightforward?

 

[nlaruccia]

Why is it said it's difficult to get money into Argentina? Can't you do that with Xoom or even Western Union? I don't mean sending it to yourself, but having a friend or relative send you money here, isn't that relatively straightforward?

I propose a challenge. Western Union yourself money and then update us on the results of the experiment.

 

[polostar88]

I propose a challenge. Western Union yourself money and then update us on the results of the experiment.

I just said I don't mean sending it to yourself. I actually do want to know about this because I may have friends or relatives Xoom me money later. I heard it goes smoothly with Xoom. Is this not the case?

 

[steveinbsas]

Why is it said it's difficult to get money into Argentina? Can't you do that with Xoom or even Western Union? I don't mean sending it to yourself, but having a friend or relative send you money here, isn't that relatively straightforward?

It is relatively easy to send yourself money using XOOM. If you keep the amount transferred under $5000 pesos per month you may not even end to complete any paperwork and even if you do it isn't complicated. Once the paperwork requirement is "triggered" it may become necessary to provide "evidence" of the source of the funds and a couple bank statements (PDF). I can initiate the transfer in the morning ad the funds are usually deposited to my Argentine bank the same day (if I use a debit card).

RIA is a bit more complicated. They do not "allow" you to send money to yourself while you are in Argentina. This can be overcome with a VPN and a US phone number that they can call when you are in Argentina (available on skype). I got around the RIA "residency requirement" by having my brother make RIA transfers from an account in his name. He is the trustee of the "trust" that was set up to provide the income for my Argentine visa. It takes him less than five minutes per month to initiate the transfers which are deposited into my Argentine bank account.

 

[polostar88]

It is relatively easy to send yourself money using XOOM. If you keep the amount transferred under $5000 pesos per month you may not even end to complete any paperwork and even if you do it isn't complicated. Once the paperwork requirement is "triggered" it may become necessary to provide "evidence" of the source of the funds and a couple bank statements (PDF). I can initiate the transfer in the morning ad the funds are usually deposited to my Argentine bank the same day (if I use a debit card).

RIA is a bit more complicated. They do not "allow" you to send money to yourself while you are in Argentina. This can be overcome with a VPN and a US phone number that they can call when you are in Argentina (available on skype). I got around the RIA "residency requirement" by having my brother make RIA transfers from an account in his name. He is the trustee of the "trust" that was set up to provide the income for my Argentine visa. It takes him less than five minutes per month to initiate the transfers which are deposited into my Argentine bank account.

Guys I'm not talking about sending money to yourself. If I want a friend or relative to Xoom me money here, what't the deal with that? Is that difficult? Can they wire me $1000 without a problem? I read a post on here before that said that's OK. Would be curious to know.

 

[nlaruccia]

I just said I don't mean sending it to yourself. I actually do want to know about this because I may have friends or relatives Xoom me money later. I heard it goes smoothly with Xoom. Is this not the case?

I was serious. I've never tried sending myself money via Western Union.

 

[steveinbsas]

I just said I don't mean sending it to yourself. I actually do want to know about this because I may have friends or relatives Xoom me money later. I heard it goes smoothly with Xoom. Is this not the case?

I have sent money to myself using XOOM many times. I have a friend in the USA who has sent funds (always under $5000 pesos per month) using XOOM to another friend in Argentina a number of times without any problem whatsoever and the recipient was never asked to complete any paperwork.

If you have relatives sending you money with RIA you may have to complete the paperwork but not necessarily have to reveal any personal information about them. When you complete the "origin of funds form" all you should have to do is indicate the origin of the funds is from the "bank account" of "sender's name" and the purpose of the funds is "ayuda de familia" (family assistance), even if they don't have the same last name and the funds will be used for "living" expenses.

After I tried (unsuccessfully) to send money to myself using RIA I transferred money (with a free skype phone call) from my Schwab account to the Schwab account of a friend who actually lives in BA but has a VPN and a US phone number. He then initiated a RIA transfer that was deposited into my Argentine bank account without any question of forms to be completed. RIA did call him asking if he knew me. Even if the amount is less than $500 pesos they can ask for the paperwork at anytime. That paperwork (usually the one form) must be sent to the Argentine partner.