Macri Opportunism: Wants To Enact Law To Protect Clarin

[trennod]

Secrearies con do it too (that is the name of the 2nd in command at Court).
Juez subrogante is an euphemism for Secretaries .
What describes a judge is that he is there for lifetime, he was elected by a specific pricedure that involves the Congress and the President and he cannot be criminally prosecuted.



I m really surprised with you. Hate blinds you. You see evil and corruption where in fact there are anti corruption laws.

Before the subrogantes were elected among "friends" of the chamber.

And they were easy to removed. I impeached and acchieved to remove about 5 jueces subrogantes.

So, before they 100% friends of the chamber, now they are 50/50 according with the results of last election. Sounds very democratic for me.

As soon as the subrogantes were elected by the Congress, they have to be removed by the colegio de la magistratura where now 51% of tge members are dlected by vote.

In capital federal the Pro is highly protected, isn't it?
Regards

Bajo, the fundamental crux of the judiciary is it should be independent from government. Why? Because it needs to be free from pressure/influence so as judge cases on their merits against the law. Otherwise, it would be unduly influenced by the government.

This name of "democratisation" is just a cover, what it really means is that rather than being elected by their colleagues, judges will now be proposed and elected by political parties, of which obviously the power sits with the majority, hence the Ks.

Many International Human Rights organisations have already condenmed the reforms. Here is another question, why havent other countries thought of such a fanastic way to improve the "democracy" and independence of the judiciary?

 

[notebook.fix]

Secrearies con do it too (that is the name of the 2nd in command at Court).

So according to you Judge Ana Ceciclia Alvarez is actually 'just' the mate & media lunas girl in the back room? Is that what you are inferring?
So then please explain to me why all the links bellow refer to her as the 'Jugde' & not the 'secretary'? Could it be that you are right and they are ALL wrong???

Even Pagina 12, the ultra K paper assumes she is a judge. Maybe you and me should inform them quickly of their error? no?

"MUMALA manifestó su preocupación por la separación de la Jueza Fderal Alvarez"
http://www.tiemposur...-fderal-alvarez

"Apoyo a la jueza Alvarez y a Mariana Zuvic"
http://www.parlament...icia-54069.html

"La jueza Álvarez se despidió del cargo y Askenazy Vera aceptó reemplazarla"
http://www.infoglaci...27#.UZmnx_GR2os

"Causas locales seran tratadas por una nueva Jueza Federal"
http://www.ahoracala...d=40&Itemid=112

"Jueza de Río Gallegos desmintió a Abal Medina"
http://www.taringa.n...bal-Medina.html

"La jueza Álvarez se despidió del cargo y pidió defender la independencia del Poder Judicia"
http://noticiasaustr...egory/politica/

"Convocan a una marcha al Juzgado Federal en defensa de la Jueza Álvarez que mañana será reemplazada"
http://www.eldiarion...azada&Itemid=62

"En los considerandos, advierte que es intención del gobierno nacional, apartar de su cargo a la Jueza Ana Álvarez."
http://www.opisantac...conjueces/16246

"La letrada ocupará el cargo que hasta hoy tuvo la doctora Ana Cecilia Alvarez, encargada del juzgado federal de Río Gallegos que investiga a Lázaro Báez."
http://www.periodism...-en-santa-cruz/

"Apartarán a la Jueza Federal Ana Álvarez , que investiga las denuncias contra Lázaro Baéz"
http://www.eldiarion...-baéz&Itemid=63

"La Jueza Federal aclara formas, modos y alcances del amparo"
http://www.opisantac...del-amparo/6915

“Connivencia con los genocidas”
http://www.pagina12....2012-09-01.html

"Juzgado Federal: Juez Federal Subrogante Dra. Ana Cecilia ALVAREZ"
http://www.santacruz...o.php?opcion=jf

[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]I m really surprised with you. Hate blinds you. You see evil and corruption where in fact there are anti corruption laws.[/background]

Again, maybe you are totaly right! I must be going blind... or it' just a bad dream, there's NO CORRUPTION happening under Cristina! It's just "anti corruption laws" I'm seeing...I breathe a deep sigh of relief! ...thanks for your comforting words, you know?, I was starting to get very angry but maybe I should just learn to love it instead? no?

I mean, you seem to be quite unaffected by it... in fact, it would seem that you are very happy & at peace with Cristina & the 'imaginary' corruption under her...why does that give me an uneasy feeling?.

 

[syngirl]

Frankly, I'm very tired & disgusted to see Kircherista fundamentalists trying to steer the subject OF CORRUPT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY into 'politics' territory.

"Lazzarro Baez didn't send plane loads of cash out of the country, that's just 'politics' from the opposition/Clarin/MAgneto" THEY'LL SAY.

Kirchneristas aren't really even trying to defend the millions -- perhaps billions -- of dollars that have been embezzled by govt figures here, they just try to redirect the conversation to say that well, Clarin is doing it too. It drives me nuts.

Since as we know, Bajo-Cero is the most vocal kirchnerista on the board, I'd love him to understand that in other countries they would be calling for the president's head, and she and all of her friends would be going through lengthy trials with some time in (albeit white-collar) prisons coming their way. In Canada right now for instance, there is a huge scandal going on that is threatening to destabilize Harper's govt. All Senate members who do NOT live within a 100km radius of the capital are given housing budgets so that they can rent apartments while the house is in session. In the end they have only found that 3 senators -- 3 -- abused the housing allowances, taking money for housing despite not meeting the conditions to receive it. You know how much money we are talking about? Less than a quarter million dollars in housing allowances (at the moment). One of the senators had to pay back 45k or so in misused funds, another about 60k, and then the other, 90k. This 90k senator is the one that has the prime minister in the most hot water, as it seems that the prime minister's aide wrote a personal cheque to the senator for 90k to repay the misused funds. So you see, in normal countries, $90,000 (about 87kUSD!!!) in misused funds is enough to erupt into a scandal that "has the govt in panic-mode".

Today there will be a house caucus, and the sh*t will hit the fan -- and then after caucus, ironically enough Harper will fly off for a 4 day visit to South America. Haven't yet looked to see if Argentina is on the agenda. He should add a visit to Cris and get some schooling in how to really work dirty.

http://www.680news.c...xpense-scandal/
http://cponline.thec...pense-timeline/

 

[notebook.fix]

I'm totally with you on it Syngirl. It's thousand$ of million$..It's beyond the stratosphere here...attempting to justify or defend this ORGANIZED KRIMINAL GROUP is worse than defending pedophilia. It's perverse to say the least. Last night on LAnata it was the vice president Bouludou's turn again with all the millions he's actively siphoning away from the state under Cristina's blessing & approval. The worst part is that here they do it in broad daylight, in your face & with an attitude. And today some fundie Taliban KK is going to come out & turn blue in the face trying to convince us that it's just another Clarin conspiracy story. Your links are great..thanks.., what a contrast! If only!

 

[rrptownley]

In the UK:

£20000

£8385

£14000

All jailed from 9 - 16 months

 

[ciudadania101]

Delete post.

 

[jp]

attempting to justify or defend this ORGANIZED KRIMINAL GROUP is worse than defending pedophilia.

Sorry, but this is getting ridiculous.

 

[trennod]

Thats a great example Syngirl. I can pick many things wrong with where I grew up (Australia) but I am glad that the culture of society looks down on corruption & whenever its identified the culprits are punished accordingly.

Theres one going on at the moment with a MP of the Government (Labor Party) who miused union funds from back when he was a Health Union Leader (before he was even a member of Parliament). I think it was only about 100k, used to fund his own election campaign (the main problem here was that his didnt disclose it) and for prostitutes and a few other things.

Every man and his dog was called in to investigate including:
- Australian Federal Police and State Police
- The Workplace Law Tribunal (Federal Tribunal), for breach of union rules, workplace laws etc
- The Health Union did their own investigation (run by a professional services firm)
- A professional services firm then reviewed the Investigation of the Workplace Law Tribunal

And whats happened to him now? Hes been charged with fraud (so could go to jail), has already been kicked out of the Governments party (ie is sitting as an Independent MP) and the Party are in the process of expelling him altogether (before he resigns so he cant collect any bonuses etc). His seat in parliament will then be up for election.

It would be fantastic if all the Korrupt, Chorros from this government had the same kind of treatment for the millions and millions they have stolen of the PEOPLES money.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Bajo, the fundamental crux of the judiciary is it should be independent from government. Why? Because it needs to be free from pressure/influence so as judge cases on their merits against the law. Otherwise, it would be unduly influenced by the government.

This name of "democratisation" is just a cover, what it really means is that rather than being elected by their colleagues, judges will now be proposed and elected by political parties, of which obviously the power sits with the majority, hence the Ks.

Many International Human Rights organisations have already condenmed the reforms. Here is another question, why havent other countries thought of such a fanastic way to improve the "democracy" and independence of the judiciary?

Thank you for enlight me, if you make a simple google search you can find out that I wrote a paper about judiciary independency...
There is no cover, you are missinformed. The dictators gave up political power but they remain the control of the Courts. That´s why it is so important this the develop mecanism and procedures accoring with the democracy. You are missinformed again. My Master Julio Maier was the brain behing the democratization of the justice all arround south america using the argentine mistakes to avoid to repeat them.
The criminal reform in Chile, Guatemala and Bolivia are the one i can now remember.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

So according to you Judge Ana Ceciclia Alvarez is actually 'just' the mate & media lunas girl in the back room? Is that what you are inferring?
So then please explain to me why all the links bellow refer to her as the 'Jugde' & not the 'secretary'? Could it be that you are right and they are ALL wrong???

Yes, they are all wrong, they are jorunalist not lawyers, and bad journalist because they should learn what is the difference between a judge and a subrogante.

Again, maybe you are totaly right! I must be going blind... or it' just a bad dream, there's NO CORRUPTION happening under Cristina! It's just "anti corruption laws" I'm seeing...I breathe a deep sigh of relief! ...thanks for your comforting words, you know?, I was starting to get very angry but maybe I should just learn to love it instead? no?

I mean, you seem to be quite unaffected by it... in fact, it would seem that you are very happy & at peace with Cristina & the 'imaginary' corruption under her...why does that give me an uneasy feeling?.

You know, it is funny. You are so reactionary that make me look as ultra K while I just try to be objective.
This was an anti-corruption law were all the political forces were able to propose the subrogantes.
The judge you defend is very well known for being super corrupt. What are you talking about?