Maduro Wins Venezuela's Election With 51% Of Votes

[French jurist]

I think the international organisations drank a bit too much: http://america.infob...99-de-los-votos

"En 860 lugares se registraron hechos de violencia que afectaron notoriamente el orden público. Y en 1.111 centros se vieron actos manifiestos de propaganda electoral en las inmediaciones."

All political considerations aside (furthermore I'm rather a conservative guy, voted for Sarkozy, etc., but I like the truth too):

Weird to mention violent acts since 100% of the casualties are pro-chavistas (plus a cop). Does not compute to me.

Weird that no videos exist of those "events", in the YouTube era. There's indeed one video of a guy assisting a voter (relevant?). Does not compute to me.

But maybe that the few countries that didn't recognize the results, among which Paraguay with Federico Franco, its "very legitimate" President, are right?
I have no doubt that if Capriles had won by such a slim margin, those same countries would have also called for a recount, hence proving the freedom of their own analysis, jeje.

 

[Yogur griego]

If you are a conservative guy, I'd say you'd be automatically more happy with Maduro than any other candidate, because I'd say this military junta is only left-wing in name. Perhaps some of the policies in their slums were a good plan, but for an arch politician like Chávez that would be just a way to buy votes. Your arguments in this post are quite valid, but some of your previous posts, and I am sorry to say that because you are a nice guy, show a typical credulous political position that you are free to have but which, in a dubious way, reflect my own idealism when I was much younger.

I don't consider myself an adhertent of whatever ideological ideal, apart from the firm belief that governments need to be kicked out every once in a while to prevent abuse of power, corruption and the coming into being of too many long-term interests. Politics is about interests, not about nonsensical discourse about ''Socialism of the Twentieth-First Century'' or whatever similar pathetic swindle. Likewise, I am also not necessarily a follower of the Capriles hype, because Chávez was elected with the same enthousiasm. I am just cynical about the state of democracy in Venezuela. If it still exists...

The interests of the mediocre people who jumped on the Chávez-bandwagon have become too profound, and that is why they are REALLY not going to hand over power in any way. I do not believe the results of these elections and I already see signs of an increased level of repression in the coming years. Chavismo has destroyed the already poor institutions of Venezuela and the country is basically a semi-authoritarian state that I mostly despise because of Chávez' Mugabe-like policies of spreading hatred and acively supporting even much more repressive dictatorial regimes around the world. Within Latin America itself, you won't hear a lot of criticism about this disastrous chain of events, because there are too many interests, dolares, sabés? Paraguay is not an important country. I don't think the constitutional coup there was a great idea, but the big nations only replied in furor because Paraguay is an easy target.

Venezuela, really, is becoming a desperate mess and quite possibly much more of a repressive rogue state than it is now. Chávez maintained a soft dictatorial stance, but the Castro brothers are now in charge. They know how to get rid of people with different opinions. I am glad we can both exchange our (conflicting) arguments in peace without fear of being monitored by secret services or tortured in prisons. My family, with its history, knows well what repressive regimes entail, my friend.

Read this too:
http://opinion.infob...rto-por-muerto/

 

[Bajo_cero2]

I don t know why you are so surprised that he won without fraud. In Argentina they were using the figure of Peron to win elections for over 50 years.

 

[Yogur griego]

I don t know why you are so surprised that he won without fraud. In Argentina they were using the figure of Peron to win elections for over 50 years.

Christian, I have read various comparisons between Chávez and Peronnolini not as politicians but in particular their legacy.

The funny element (oh the malicious pleasure!) in that is that Maduro is too much of an idiot, and one completely without political talent, to be able to at least win by a comfortable margin with uncountable material advantages on his side and, more importantly, the charasmatic legacy of Hugo Chávez who wás actually a talented politician.

I am not surprised if the chavista power base is going to crumble in the next few years and Maduro won't survive this.

Venezuela is either going to be a Castrista dictatorship (but good luck doing that if 49% of the voting population is against you, which has grown thanks to probably desilussioned chavistas) or an malfuncioning bizarre system with parties who fight each other but all refer to the legacy of Chavez (Argentina's speciality). But I don't see an organized repression at the scale of 1976 coming, the situation is tense but fortunately the Cold War is behind us.

 

[Yogur griego]

Nobody knows...will they put Chávez' face on skyscrapers in Caracas in 2060? Or will there be different heroes/polemical figures?

From a historical perspective I find the particular use of symbolism in Argentina very interesting. Until recently I was living near that building, and Eva would look down at me every day, with her two very different glances.

 

[Yogur griego]