Milei to New Yorkers: Flee "communist" Mamdani to Argentina

[Agribotics]

You really don't like the line about libertarians running out of other people's money, do you?

I like it fine because it's true. Milei is probably enticing wealthy New Yorkers to come to Argentina so he'll have enough other people's money to muddle thru Argentina's transformation from nanny state to successful capitalist economy like Taiwan's.

 

[Ries]

Online estimates are there are about 15,000 self declared "communists" in the USA, population 345,000,000.
That would be 0.0043478260869565% of the US population.
Argentina is estimated to have about 23,000 "communists"- there are actual communist political parties here.
Population 47,000,000, so that would be 0.048936170212766% of the Argentine population.

That means Argentina is, by a teeny tiny percentage, MORE COMMUNIST than the USA.
Mamdani received a bit over one million votes.
The amount of communists who voted for him is probably less than the amount of Thai immigrants who voted for him.

Still, those wealthy NYC right wingers need to be informed what they are in for if they move to Argentina.

 

[Agribotics]

Online estimates are there are about 15,000 self declared "communists" in the USA, population 345,000,000.
That would be 0.0043478260869565% of the US population.
Argentina is estimated to have about 23,000 "communists"- there are actual communist political parties here.
Population 47,000,000, so that would be 0.048936170212766% of the Argentine population.

That means Argentina is, by a teeny tiny percentage, MORE COMMUNIST than the USA.
Mamdani received a bit over one million votes.
The amount of communists who voted for him is probably less than the amount of Thai immigrants who voted for him.

Still, those wealthy NYC right wingers need to be informed what they are in for if they move to Argentina.

You're confusing socialists with communists.

 

[sergio]

NYC 'right wingers', presumably millionaires or billionaires, aren't going to move to Argentina. They can move to more tax friendly cities in the US like those in Florida or to any number of appealing, stable, tax friendly nations around the world.

 

[Ries]

You're confusing socialists with communists.

Ah, no, that would be the president of the US who is confused.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/27/trump-new-york-zohran-mamdani-communist.html

 

[mageesa]

As a former New Yorker (15 years), I suspect our Taiwanese friend spent even less time there than in BA. Mamdani's proposals make sense to that particular situation, and that's why he won.

As an American whose tax dollars are being spent to keep the peso artificially high (thus making life more expensive here in Argentina), I feel hoodwinked by the "free marketeers". I can't believe I have to live through a second national experiment in trickle-down economics.

 

[Agribotics]

Mamdani's proposals make sense to that particular situation, and that's why he won.

I'm a U.S. citizen originally from the Left Coast. Fact is I'm happy Mamdani won by promising a lot of free stuff that will be paid for by other people's money, which New York City has plenty of. It's about time socialism was tried somewhere where it has half a chance of working. Russia and Argentina are the last places socialism should ever have been tried.

 

[Ries]

Argentina is not, and has never been "socialist".
It has always been capitalist, and even at the height of Peron himself, it was run by a coalition of the Military, the Oligarchs, the Church, and the Labor Unions.
Since the early 80s, the Military and the Church have become much smaller players, unable to call the shots anymore.
And the Oligarchs have pretty much beat the Unions on expanding any of the social safety nets that were instituted in the 50s and 60s.

Argentina has public hospitals, which also function as teaching hospitals, but, compared to, say, the UK, where pretty much everybody uses the NHS, the degree of "socialized" health care here is much less- most people have insurance, many people never go to the public hospitals in their entire lives.
Argentina has some State run Universities- and, again, a very healthy for profit private university network as well, which is not free at all.
Compared to Germany, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Slovenia, and Scotland, Argentina is much less "socialist" in terms of education.
Most of the utilities, telecoms, radio, tv, and newspapers are privately owned in CABA, which is a third of the population of the country.
Unlike many european many european, african, and other countries worldwide, which have state utility companies. Some provinces in Argentina have provincially owned utilities, but its far from a national, top down, socialist system.
I grew up in Seattle, which has a socialist City owned electric company that actually owns and operates its own dams and generation system, unlike Buenos Aires. 3 businessmen own the electrical grid here.
There are very few state owned businesses in Argentina, and they continue to get privatized.

Even at the height of Peronism, the large, privately owned corporations like SIAM did extremely well, with government support of their captialism, not government owned companies.

There is a history of laws that support the Unions, and of cooperatives and non-profit housing projects, much like Co-op city in NYC, but nowhere near as "socialist" as the public housing in someplace like Vienna.

Billionaires have never been a persecuted species in Argentina, and they continue to dictate what laws Milei can and cannot have.

Forbes Argentina

Forbes Argentina | La marca número 1 de negocios del mundo en Argentina.

www.forbesargentina.com

 

[sergio]

Argentina is not, and has never been "socialist".
It has always been capitalist, and even at the height of Peron himself, it was run by a coalition of the Military, the Oligarchs, the Church, and the Labor Unions.
Since the early 80s, the Military and the Church have become much smaller players, unable to call the shots anymore.
And the Oligarchs have pretty much beat the Unions on expanding any of the social safety nets that were instituted in the 50s and 60s.

Argentina has public hospitals, which also function as teaching hospitals, but, compared to, say, the UK, where pretty much everybody uses the NHS, the degree of "socialized" health care here is much less- most people have insurance, many people never go to the public hospitals in their entire lives.
Argentina has some State run Universities- and, again, a very healthy for profit private university network as well, which is not free at all.
Compared to Germany, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Slovenia, and Scotland, Argentina is much less "socialist" in terms of education.
Most of the utilities, telecoms, radio, tv, and newspapers are privately owned in CABA, which is a third of the population of the country.
Unlike many european many european, african, and other countries worldwide, which have state utility companies. Some provinces in Argentina have provincially owned utilities, but its far from a national, top down, socialist system.
I grew up in Seattle, which has a socialist City owned electric company that actually owns and operates its own dams and generation system, unlike Buenos Aires. 3 businessmen own the electrical grid here.
There are very few state owned businesses in Argentina, and they continue to get privatized.

Even at the height of Peronism, the large, privately owned corporations like SIAM did extremely well, with government support of their captialism, not government owned companies.

There is a history of laws that support the Unions, and of cooperatives and non-profit housing projects, much like Co-op city in NYC, but nowhere near as "socialist" as the public housing in someplace like Vienna.

Billionaires have never been a persecuted species in Argentina, and they continue to dictate what laws Milei can and cannot have.

Forbes Argentina

Forbes Argentina | La marca número 1 de negocios del mundo en Argentina.

www.forbesargentina.com

This is correct. The 'communist' threat notion is complete rubbish.

 

[Agribotics]

Argentina is not, and has never been "socialist".

New York City is not and never has been socialist but it's about to be under self-proclaimed democratic socialist Zohran Mamdani, America's answer to Juan Peron and "Justicialismo."