More Border Controls?

[MDZ]

I guess we will have to wait and see for the next person who posts that they were not allowed to enter Argentina

I could imagine three scenarios:

1) nothing changes / nothing changes for expats from certain countries (whose citizens are not involved in a lot of crimes here)
2) the new law/regulation is enforced with more expats on touris visas being denied entry when it is obvious that they permanently live in Argentina
3) the new law is enforced only for a few weeks until the press stops reporting about it / until they run out of forms at the border

My guess is 3 ...

 

[wineguy999]

3) the new law is enforced only for a few weeks until the press stops reporting about it / until they run out of forms at the border

:lol:

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Well, as i was saying for the last 3 years, to do the Colonia run is stupid, against the law and risky.

My advice is to overstay until you a) leave B) apply residency or c) apply for citizenship.

Regarding the PRO, they are xenophobic. Remember what they did with the tango competition where they requested to be a pure porteño.

 

[lucha54]

I'm overstaying again now (second time in 3.5 years)... returning in January... will either apply for residency or citizenship next year... the questions is, will they let me back in? Will report back in January.

 

[ghost]

Not really news to this group, but...


http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromargentina/government-tightens-border-controls-for-false-tourists/

The Immigration Department has established new border controls to determine whether foreign citizens who enter Argentina should really be classified as tourists.​

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The additional controls will be applied to people suspected of being ‘false tourists’, that is, those seeking the standard three-month tourist visa but entering the country for reasons other than the defined criteria of “rest and recreation”.​

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In case of any doubts regarding the purpose of stay of incoming foreigners, Immigration officials at all entry points into Argentina will be able to demand further information and supporting documentation regarding a person’s:​

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* Place of permanent residency.​

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* Current job.​

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* Estimated stay in Argentina.​

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* Which places they intend to visit.​

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* How they will travel to their destinations.​

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* Any relatives, friends, or acquaintances who live in Argentina.​

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Supporting documentation will include air tickets, credit cards, domestic or international transport tickets, hotel bookings, or any other evidence immigration officers consider necessary.​

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Those foreign citizens who have remained in Argentina for long periods of time, which could indicate they do not live in the country they declare as their place of permanent residency, will also be targeted.​

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If a person entering the country is found to be a “false tourist”, they will be rejected at the border.​

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The new measures come in the midst of a debate regarding the links between immigration and crime, with the government pushing a reform of the Criminal Procedure Code which would allow the authorities to expel foreign citizens who are caught committing a crime.​

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The new measure was presented today in the Official Gazette.​

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Oh NO. It's the fault of all of those Moto Choro guys from Texas. And the Canadian pick pockets.

 

[Somewhereinba]

These controls are not directed at permatourists directly, more people who are coming to Argentina with bad intentions to commit crimes. Time will tell.

 

[nlaruccia]

I could imagine three scenarios:

1) nothing changes / nothing changes for expats from certain countries (whose citizens are not involved in a lot of crimes here)
2) the new law/regulation is enforced with more expats on touris visas being denied entry when it is obvious that they permanently live in Argentina
3) the new law is enforced only for a few weeks until the press stops reporting about it / until they run out of forms at the border

My guess is 3 ...

It will probably by like the law passed a while back about requiring the use of seat belts in cars. I think it was enforced for a week, then everything went back to normal.

 

[lucha54]

Same when they rerouted bus traffic to my street because of Metrobus Cabildo construction and gave everyone tickets who parked on the left. I got 3 (yeah yeah I'm lame) and now everyone is parking on the left again and NO ONE is getting tickets! Despite the fact that the Metrobus construction is ongoing. Ahhhhhh Argentina....

 

[ben]

These controls are not directed at permatourists directly, more people who are coming to Argentina with bad intentions to commit crimes. Time will tell.

Yes, such grave crimes as selling dollars on the free market, buying Clarin, refusing to participate in anti-buitres demonstrations, and DWY (driving while yanqui).

And those are only the actual crimes, the intentions are worse yet.

 

[eorl]

Oppsss.. one thing in life is certain and constant, change, things always change. Permatourists? I never really got or understood that because it is like legally breaking the law. Of course allot of things in Argentina and South American are like that. Personally and I am speaking for me alone. I don't like grey areas in legalities. You see grey areas mean I am no longer in control. Not that I have any real control by any means but I am just more comfortable feeling like I have my s**t squared away. When things are in the grey they can be suddenly be changed to black or white without notice. If they are now looking for s**t on the way in what happens to the permatourists if they start looking for s**t on the way out? And given that AFIP is on steriods looking for every dime, well, my advice or two cents is... if you are a not legit then cover your A**! get legit or get out while the getting is good.

I don't see very much grey in legalities. Most of it is against the law. It is black and white but we choose black because it's not often enforced. I haven't met anyone here squared away and legit. At least of those that still keep some ties to their home country. If it is not a visa issue, it is electronics/customs violation through the airport, selling dollars, or an income tax violation.