New Entrance fees for Americans

[steveinbsas]

Doesn't apply to all Americans, only citizens of the USA.

With Obama as prez, I thought that we were going global...and everyone would love the USA and return the bows.

Apparently, Argentina plans to preserve it's autonomy.

As they should.

 

[Stella]

Thank you Mini.

 

[StevePalermo]

Oh, brother...

You must be one of those arrogant yankees that believe that Americans are exclusively from the USA. Maybe you should make some Argentine friends while you're here then you'll learn the difference.

 

[steveinbsas]

You must be one of those arrogant yankees that believe that Americans are exclusively from the USA. Maybe you should make some Argentine friends while you're here then you'll learn the difference.

I am from the USA and I am an American.

Argentine citizens don't call themselves Americans.

Neither do Canadians, Mexicans, or folks from any other Central or South American nations.

It's a 250 year old nickname...that clearly denotes ONE country.

 

[Stella]

Sorry if I offended anyone. I know I am North American and I do have Argentine friends and my husband's family is Argentine. I did not expect this kind of reaction from this community and I have never considered myself arrogant.

I think you both are much too quick to judge someone you know nothing about.

 

[Davidglen77]

Sorry if I offended anyone. I know I am North American and I do have Argentine friends and my husband's family is Argentine. I did not expect this kind of reaction from this community and I have never considered myself arrogant.

I think you both are much too quick to judge someone you know nothing about.

Some people take comments made here to the EXTREME and just love to bash others. Hey some ARGENTINE people here have asked me if I am "AMERICAN" and the answer is yes. Others ask where I come from and I say North America or The United States. In spanish if I get asked "de donde sos" la respuesta es "Norteamericano". Let's all stop being so dog gone sensitive and OVERLY politically correct. People usually know what you mean ANYWAY which ever answer you use in this case and if they call you on it they are just nitpicking.

 

[StevePalermo]

I am from the USA and I am an American.

Argentine citizens don't call themselves Americans.

Neither do Canadians, Mexicans, or folks from any other Central or South American nations.

It's a 250 year old nickname...that clearly denotes ONE country.

Sorry to disagree, but we must move in different circles. I've lived here for nearly 9 years and all my friends are Argentine. In fact a few have just arrived in my depto and as I write they are all shouting "We are Americans!". They disagree... as I said, we must move in different circles. I must agree that many Argentines don't use the word for themselves, but many do. I was being a little provocative. Didn't know you guys claimed the nickname from 1760. But its not for your exclusive use however much you want to claim it. The Monroe doctrine didn't go that far did it?

 

[sesamosinsal]

Sorry to disagree, but we must move in different circles. I've lived here for nearly 9 years and all my friends are Argentine. In fact a few have just arrived in my depto and as I write they are all shouting "We are Americans!". They disagree... as I said, we must move in different circles. I must agree that many Argentines don't use the word for themselves, but many do. I was being a little provocative. Didn't know you guys claimed the nickname from 1760. But its not for your exclusive use however much you want to claim it. The Monroe doctrine didn't go that far did it?

I've never met a single person from the Americas who called themselves an American other than a U.S. citizen. Sure, when you prod them on the technicalities of the term, they will say, "We are all Americans." The day I meet someone from the Americas who is from Canada or any other countries other than the U.S. and they refer to themselves as an "American," I will come running back to this thread and apologize.

And actually, I am not a big fan of the concept of nationality. I think it's divisive and discriminatory. I just find this particular debate to be quite absurd because people who are not from the United States would never, in reality, refer to themselves as an "American."

 

[ElQueso]

I've never met a single person from the Americas who called themselves an American other than a U.S. citizen. Sure, when you prod them on the technicalities of the term, they will say, "We are all Americans." The day I meet someone from the Americas who is from Canada or any other countries other than the U.S. and they refer to themselves as an "American," I will come running back to this thread and apologize.

And actually, I am not a big fan of the concept of nationality. I think it's divisive and discriminatory. I just find this particular debate to be quite absurd because people who are not from the United States would never, in reality, refer to themselves as an "American."

Absolutely.

You can bet those who actually object to estadounidenses being called "American" are those who generally have a problem with the US to begin with. I know many Argentines who don't have a problem in the world with estadounidenses calling themselves American, and indeed I am usually asked if I'm an "Americano" or a "Norteamericano" much more often than I am asked if I'm an "estadounidense." They will roll their eyes when I say "but we're all Americans living in the Western Hemisphere" and say "yeah, but you know what I mean."

The funny thing, to me, is that I don't even think we necessarily call ourselves "Americans" due to arrogance, for the most part (nothing in nature is 100%). You all might have noticed that I used the term "estadounidense" when referring to Americans from the US. That's a great name for someone from the States. Much better than norteamericano because gee, sometimes the Canadians get upset being lumped in with us Americans from the US, and Mexico doesn't necessarily not object either.

But what else would we actually call ourselves in English?

United States of American?

United Statesian?

United Stateser?

Uniteder?

Stateser?

Statey?

USAer? ("you-es-ayer" as well as "U S A er")

USer? (same as above)

USAn?

I mean come on. I don't think the founding fathers of the States really thought about how the name would apply to travelers outside its borders, particularly considering that it was the first country in the New World to gain independence from its European power and set up a country in "the Americas".

Americans will never stop calling themselves Americans because they have nothing else to call themselves.

Everyone in the world will know that America is not referring to anywhere except the US when talking about a country, and most sensible people will also understand that that in no way is intended to demean any other nation in "the Americas."

People who dislike US Americans (whether or not those with the dislike are from the US!) and live in "the Americas" will always resent people from the US calling themselves simply "Americans."

I always say I'm an estadounidense. I understand that it can offend some Argentinos for one to call oneself "American" when from the US, but then I also know that many things offend Argentinos and I don't go around saying those other things in front of just any Argentino either.

Spanish provided a nice way of saying "United States of American" without it sounding funny and it probably should be used by all.

 

[Napoleon]

You all might have noticed that I used the term "estadounidense" when referring to Americans from the US. That's a great name for someone from the States. Much better than norteamericano because gee, sometimes the Canadians get upset being lumped in with us Americans from the US, and Mexico doesn't necessarily not object either.

I object Cheeseball.

The reason is, that Mexico isn't really "Mexico", but rather "The United States of Mexico". (Well, actually they speak Mexican there, so it's really "Estados Unidos Mexicanos".) So a Mexican could also say that he/she is "estadounidense" and be MUCH MORE ACCURATE than saying that he/she is "American".

But then again, I wouldn't expect the high 'tard quotient of the PC crowd around here to even take the time to research their argument before sticking their heads up their culos.

No other country to my knowledge uses "America" in their country's name. And coming from Texas, I didn't know too many people growing up who considered Mexicans to be Americans.