No Sh*t!

[ajoknoblauch]

Further proof that the government does care and is trying, in spite of all the vitriol poured upon them. No, they're not perfect, but they're far from the monsters some people claim.

Actually, they are far from the benevolent despots that their most ardent supporters think they are.

 

[ghost]

Further proof that the government does care and is trying, in spite of all the vitriol poured upon them. No, they're not perfect, but they're far from the monsters some people claim.

Dream on Pinky. Those poo poo baggie boxs will become empty and will never be refilled. It's all optics.

 

[nlaruccia]

Further proof that the government does care and is trying, in spite of all the vitriol poured upon them. No, they're not perfect, but they're far from the monsters some people claim.

You're being facetious, right?

 

[Redpossum]

You're being facetious, right?

Ah hell, Nats, you've been here for ages, I'm still a n00b, and I'd be an idiot to argue with you straight up.

But I've been reading a lot about Argentine history lately, and while I'm horrified by some episodes, (e.g. did you know the Air Force bombed the Plaza de Mayo and the Casa Rosada in June of 1955, and killed some 350 people, while wounding 800 more?), and the more I learn, the more I view the K government positively. Certainly they're not perfect, but if we compare them to past Argentine governments, rather than some theoretical ideal, they don't seem so bad. The thing that really rocked me was when I realised that the last 31 years of civilian rule have apparently been the longest period without either a coup or a civil war in Argentine history, though I'm still not entirely clear on the years between the end of the civil wars in 1880 and the ugly stuff that happened when Yrigoyen was President, i.e. the Tragic Week in 1919 and the Patagonian Rebellion of 1920-1921. Perhaps this is only the second-longest period, but still the longest in 100 years.

I have a lot more reading to do, and a lot more to learn. I keep remembering the conversation I had with three of the reception staff at the Hotel Centuria the second week I was here. I said, "Hay mucha de la historia de la Argentina que no entiendo". Valeria chuckled and replied, "Hay mucha de la historia de la Argentina que nadie entiende". Claudio and the other man, whose name escapes me, both nodded in agreement.

Good hotel, by the way, if you want functional and cheap.

 

[PhilipDT]

Red, the reason she asked if you were being facetious is that the pic in the original post was of a project by the city government which is run by an opposition party that is generally supported by members of this site

baexpats.org/topic/25054-is-mayor-macri-improving-the-lives-of-portenos/

 

[Redpossum]

Red, the reason she asked if you were being facetious is that the pic in the original post was of a project by the city government which is run by an opposition party that is generally supported by members of this site

baexpats.org/topic/25054-is-mayor-macri-improving-the-lives-of-portenos/

I realise the difference. I don't favor one party over another, because I don't know enough. Though I will admit that Carrió of FA-UNEN seems a bit odd.

If you go back and look at what I said at #5 I didn't specify which government. I was talking about government in general, though I did get more specific at #24.

But what about my central point. There have been 31 years of peaceful civilian government. In contrast to Argentina's past, that is an accomplishment.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

I realise the difference. I don't favor one party over another, because I don't know enough. Though I will admit that Carrió of FA-UNEN seems a bit odd.

If you go back and look at what I said at #5 I didn't specify which government. I was talking about government in general, though I did get more specific at #24.

But what about my central point. There have been 31 years of peaceful civilian government. In contrast to Argentina's past, that is an accomplishment.

Also 31 years of wasted opportunities, particularly over the past decade-plus.

 

[Matiasba]

Ah hell, Nats, you've been here for ages, I'm still a n00b, and I'd be an idiot to argue with you straight up.

But I've been reading a lot about Argentine history lately, and while I'm horrified by some episodes, (e.g. did you know the Air Force bombed the Plaza de Mayo and the Casa Rosada in June of 1955, and killed some 350 people, while wounding 800 more?), and the more I learn, the more I view the K government positively. Certainly they're not perfect, but if we compare them to past Argentine governments, rather than some theoretical ideal, they don't seem so bad. The thing that really rocked me was when I realised that the last 31 years of civilian rule have apparently been the longest period without either a coup or a civil war in Argentine history, though I'm still not entirely clear on the years between the end of the civil wars in 1880 and the ugly stuff that happened when Yrigoyen was President, i.e. the Tragic Week in 1919 and the Patagonian Rebellion of 1920-1921. Perhaps this is only the second-longest period, but still the longest in 100 years.

I have a lot more reading to do, and a lot more to learn. I keep remembering the conversation I had with three of the reception staff at the Hotel Centuria the second week I was here. I said, "Hay mucha de la historia de la Argentina que no entiendo". Valeria chuckled and replied, "Hay mucha de la historia de la Argentina que nadie entiende". Claudio and the other man, whose name escapes me, both nodded in agreement.

Good hotel, by the way, if you want functional and cheap.

Finally somebody who actually cares about Argentina and its history!! This forum is full of people who talks and talks about politics in Argentina without knowing anything of history, I ve even read here that peronismo is antidemocratical!!

It is amazing how people talk as if they knew.

 

[Redpossum]

Finally somebody who actually cares about Argentina and its history!! This forum is full of people who talks and talks about politics in Argentina without knowing anything of history, I ve even read here that peronismo is antidemocratical!!

It is amazing how people talk as if they knew.

Thank you, Matias.

It seems to be an iron law of these forums that nobody is allowed to say anything positive about Argentina without being subjected to scathing ridicule by the sour, bitter, cynical element of this community. But they can be as sour as they like. In the end, I'm a happier person, even if I am a fool

 

[Joe]

Thank you, Matias.

It seems to be an iron law of these forums that nobody is allowed to say anything positive about Argentina without being subjected to scathing ridicule by the sour, bitter, cynical element of this community. But they can be as sour as they like. In the end, I'm a happier person, even if I am a fool

You like to quote Lenin, I prefer to quote Lennon:

"Living is easy with eyes closed."