Please help me people ( I need your help) PLEASE PLEASE

[madhuranand007]

Thanks French jurist, nikad and steveinbsas. It so nice of you people to helping me.

And YES we both want to marry asap.

But I read somewhere that the marriage is only legal if its done only in period of my tourist visa. Our relation is going from more than a year ... So Will they allow us to marry and legalize me to give me citizenship.

I do not want to live illegally with my would be wife.

So I need support of you people to guide me how to do everything in legal way . So that I be prepared for everything in future.

Yes "cafeconleche" i will go to Embassy on Monday coz it only open from Mon - Fri.

Thanks to all and please guide me as much as u people can

 

[chris]

I do NOT advise consulting the Argentine embassy. They will not help you but if you tell them your true intention they could deny you a tourist visa. Just get to Buenos Aires and make contact with the small Indian community. Once here you will find a way.

 

[captainmcd]

From personal experience I do know that Immigration officers will track you down and come to your apartment, it happened to me because of the officers not knowing their own laws. I entered in 1997 as a Residente Permanente, but the officer who stamped my passport tracked me down at home a week later, and stamped over my entry "90 dias". Since I was leaving sooner than that anyway, it did not bother me, and on subsiquent entrys I have had no problem entering as "residente permanente". Immigration laws have changed since then, but the officers can and will track you down if they want to.

 

[cafeconleche]

I do NOT advise consulting the Argentine embassy. They will not help you but if you tell them your true intention they could deny you a tourist visa. Just get to Buenos Aires and make contact with the small Indian community. Once here you will find a way.

Look, this is not possible for Indians. Unlike Europeans, Americans, etc, Indians require a visa to be applied for in advance before we can even enter Argentina. The tourist visa is free but you need to have it before you get here. I'm Indian, I know what I'm talking about as this was what I had to do. Maybe he doesn't have to mention that he intends to get here and marry an Argentine, but just that he's here for tourism.

 

[steveinbsas]

Thanks French jurist, nikad and steveinbsas. It so nice of you people to helping me.

And YES we both want to marry asap.

But I read somewhere that the marriage is only legal if its done only in period of my tourist visa. Our relation is going from more than a year ... So Will they allow us to marry and legalize me to give me citizenship.

I do not want to live illegally with my would be wife.

So I need support of you people to guide me how to do everything in legal way . So that I be prepared for everything in future.

Yes "cafeconleche" i will go to Embassy on Monday coz it only open from Mon - Fri.

Thanks to all and please guide me as much as u people can

It doesn't mater how long you have been in the relationship. Argentina is not the same as the USA. You can come here on a 90 day tourist visa and extend it for an additional 90 days at the office of migraciones with no questions asked. It may be possible to be married with an expired tourist visa but you obviously don't want to wait anyway.

If you have to have a valid tourist visa to get married that would give you six months to marry after your arrival. Then you would be eligible for permanent residency. You will have to "reside" in Argentina for two years before being granted citizenship, but you may be able to start the process after just one year from the date of your arrival or the date your permanent residency is granted. It up to the court where you apply for citizenship and isn't a critical issue in either case. Once you become a permanent resident you will be able to stay indefinitely without ever going back to migraciones.

I don't know what documents you have to provide to get a tourist visa but you will know the answer soon. In order to apply for permanent residency after you are married you will need your birth certificate, a criminal report for the countries you have lived in for more than a year during the past five years, and of course, your marriage license. They need the Apostille if India is a member of the Hague Convention. The Argentine embassy will tell you exactly what you need.

I don't think you have anything to worry about as far as being legal. If you want to tell them you are coming as a tourist that's up to you. Nonetheless, I believe you can tell them you are coming to Argentina to marry your girlfriend, but it really isn't necessary. Again, Argentina is very different from many other countries when it comes to immigration, but you never know, the official you deal with at the embassy might have "personal issues" with the citizens of the country in which he is working..especially if one of them wants to marry someone from his country.

If anyone can correct or add to any of this please do so.

 

[chris]

Look, this is not possible for Indians. Unlike Europeans, Americans, etc, Indians require a visa to be applied for in advance before we can even enter Argentina. The tourist visa is free but you need to have it before you get here. I'm Indian, I know what I'm talking about as this was what I had to do. Maybe he doesn't have to mention that he intends to get here and marry an Argentine, but just that he's here for tourism.

Maybe I wasn't clear. I know very well that Indians need a visa. An Indian friend visited me a few years ago. I recall that he had to get a visa. I was trying to say that the embassy will not help you get permanent residence and it would be UNWISE to tell them that you plan to settle in Argentina.

 

[Amargo]

What if he just stays in Argentina and forgets all about residency/trips to Colonia and all that crap? Even in the extremely remote case he is caught while staying illegally...I am 100% confident NO ONE is going to pay his deportation.
AfTer staying in Argentina for some time I would get a good lawyer and go to the courts to get residency.

 

[steveinbsas]

What if he just stays in Argentina and forgets all about residency/trips to Colonia and all that crap? Even in the extremely remote case he is caught while staying illegally...I am 100% confident NO ONE is going to pay his deportation.
AfTer staying in Argentina for some time I would get a good lawyer and go to the courts to get residency.

I think it's doubtful that, as an citizen of India, he would be able to make repeat trips to Uruguay to get new tourist visas and he's already made it clear he plans to get married. That will make residency a simple matter. A lawyer might be able to assist someone with irregular (the term illegal is a misnomer) resident status get citizenship but would be completely unnecessary in the process of a foreigner who is married to an Argentine applying for residency...and most lawyers would probably charge well over a thousand dollars for "services" rendered. A "residency" agency might even charge several times that amount.

In addition to the cost of the documents he needs from India, it will cost $600 pesos plus the cost of translating and legalizing those documents to become a permanent resident after he is married to his Argentinian girlfriend. He will also have to pay about $40 pesos for the Argentine police report and whatever fee is charged to get married.

After that, getting citizenship should not cost more than he has to pay for a few photocopies. Hopefully, he will never need a lawyer...for anything.

 

[steveinbsas]

These threads will provide a lot of information about getting permanent residency after marrying your Argentine sweetheart.


Residency at BA Migraciones, September 2011...

Residency after marriage