Railway System Neglected In Argentina

Germany, then Japan? Hmmm, me ridden the Eurostar rails and Japan's Shinkansen both and cast my vote to the Shinkansens of Japan vs the EuroStars of Germany. https://www.google.c...iw=1149&bih=627 https://www.google.c...iw=1149&bih=627
Eurostars of Germany??? The high speed trains in Germany are the ICE trains. BTW the railways system is state owned. The government tried to privatize the train system a few years back and the results of running it like private company were huge problems in maintenance and reliability.
 
I only know the first generation Shinkansen. As i recall they had at least five sests across in standard class and 2-2 seating in first which they called Green Car. Fast but not very roomy in economy. I rode ICE a couple of years ago. Fast but in need of refubishing. I think there a couple of private lines in Germany though most is state owned.
 
I only know the first generation Shinkansen. As i recall they had at least five sests across in standard class and 2-2 seating in first which they called Green Car. Fast but not very roomy in economy. I rode ICE a couple of years ago. Fast but in need of refubishing. I think there a couple of private lines in Germany though most is state owned.
Sergio-san, the 1st gen "Shinkansen trains you are talkin here were deployed back in the 60's same time as the Tokyo world expo! [background=rgb(255, 255, 204)]Shinkansen, Japan's high-speed railway system known as the bullet train, has been a leader of the world’s railway technology since it was introduced in 1964. Shinkansen has never ceased to evolve and has grown so accurate and safe that it is exported to the rest of the world. Recently, the Shinkansen family has added new members with even more advanced technologies, including automatically changing speed, greater safety and more comfortable passenger seats. Some foreign visitors fly all the way to Japan to enjoy a ride on Shinkansen. It is safe to say Shinkansen is the world's best high-speed train that is fast, safe and comfortable to ride. http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/hitech/shinkansen/ [/background]
 
Bullet train gets my vote for best in the world: "Steamy Windows":
Ah, memories....they got the Mille High Club and this Gomer has the Bullet-Train Club, maybe 1970. Life is good. Some of you need to lighten up. Enjoy the life.
 
Generally trains seem to work well in densely populated countries only - you need to reach a certain number of potential passengers per km railway. For countries like Argentina Buses (resp. trucks on the cargo side) are the much better options since the roads are already there... I...
Freight train freight train goin' so fast, Freight train freight train goin' so fast - which is what Argentina needs and used to have.
 
ACELA is not as fast as TGV - however it makes the trip a lot faster than driving New York to Washington (2 hours 45 minutes or less on ACELA). ...
Acela: Boston to New York (734 km) in 7 hours or 105 km/h.

In 1936 the German Baureihe 05 002 steam driven 197 ton (194 long tons; 217 short tons) train on Hamburg to Berlin reached a top speed of 200.4 km/h. Later it kept an average of 139.4 km/h (86.6 mph) between start and stop on a 113 km (70 mi) stretch from Wittenberg to a signal stop before Berlin-Spandau in 48 min 32 s.

Baureihe 05:
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That was: 1936. Steam locomotive.
 
You cannot cite Acela's speed over the entire Boston to Washington route. The only high speed section is Washington to New York which does the 226 miles in 2 hours 45 min or less - in great comfort, especially in first class. To run a Shinkansen type train you would have to eliminate the curves which would be a massive project involving considerable eminent domain issues. I would love to see it but i cant see the Obama adm pushing for anything like that. If Obama, supposedly pro rail, is uninterested imagine how a Republican adm would react! A project like the Shinkansen or TGV will only happen when there is a serious change in cultural attitudes in the US. There may be support along the densely populated New York-Philadelphia-Washington corridor but not likely on a national level and such a project would require federal funding.

As for the reminder that the first generation Shinkansen were built in the 60's, I know that very well. I said clearly that i knew only 1st gen Shinkansen (from when I lived in Japan in late 70s. At that time they were running the original trains on the only line they had, the Tokaido line) Do the new trains have 2-1 seating¿. Generation 1 were cramped in economy class with 3-2 seating as I recall. I remember that 1st class "Green Car" had 2-2 seating. Shinkansen safety recird is indeed excellent, unlike that of the Chinese whose railway administration is notoriously corrupt (a New Yorker article a few months ago went into depth on the extraordinary level of corruption of Chinese Railways). Here though we are talking about Argentina. The Amtrak model is much more realistic . That was my point.

As for speeds in the US, it is very true that trains are generally slow outisde the NY-Wshhington line. The legendary Santa Fe Super Chief reached speeds of 150 mph in the 1930's. Many Amtrak trains ran much faster in the 1930s. It all has to do with investment in infrastructure. Since the end of the Second World War the US has focused on highways, built at taxpayer expense. Rail was put at a great disadvantage as a result. In the case of LA's once vast urban rail system, there was conspiracy by the auto industry to destroy the system in favor of buses. Incidentaly, in the 1930's the US was the world leader in railways.
 
I rode ICE a couple of years ago. Fast but in need of refurbishing. I think there a couple of private lines in Germany though most is state owned.
The older ICE trains are not as nice as the newer ones (ICE 1 trains are from the early nineties) and need to be replaced. And you are right there are a some regional private trains usually running on state owned rails. But there was a restructuring of the Deutsche Bahn rail system into a corporation with the idea to fully privatize it. But they never got the majority in the parliament together to actually sell the corporation. But in the process of restructuring the rail system into a corporation with profit orientation many bad things happened like trying to save money by lowering maintenance costs. The result was that trains had to be taken out of service or doors would not open in Winter. It affected mainly regional and commuter trains. A good example of the result is the S-Bahn system in Berlin: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/third-world-conditions-commuter-chaos-in-berlin-until-december-a-638049.html
 
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