Recoleta . Zona Liberada - Entraderas

[trennod]

This is what I read directly before writing what I wrote. And yes, I may have gotten off topic, but so did other people, including those who chose to argue with me or disrespect me, like you for example. ¨is this how you comfort yourself.¨

I just don´t get why people jump on the Braytrain...train. This isn´t the first thread people take offense at random stuff I say or choose to attack me. Citygirl out of nowhere took offense at the ¨more local¨thing. I mean, I wasn´t trying to insult anyone, it´s just something that I feel. I shouldn´t have to explain myself or fight people for every little thing.

There are a lot of Argentines on this site and a lot of expats that have been here for many, many years (I am not one of them). I think it is disrespectful by claiming you are more local than them, like your opinion is more valid, thats all. You are definitely entitled to your opinion though.

 

[joeteixido]

You speak the truth ! Too many people here are denialists to the realities of their home countries .

Even if you are right, and we are all "denialists" it doesn't make BA any safer. I could be coming from a slum country full of drug lords with Darth Vader himself handing out Viagra pills to every rapist and issuing M16s to street gangs and it still wouldn't matter, for the subject is the obvious lack of public safety in BA/Argentina.

It is almost like your whole sense of safety is based upon the fact that there is another place in the world that is worst than BA/Argentina. Now that's some comfort!

Or is it maybe that because we come from another country, one that you perceive as being more violent or with more crime, that we got no right to say BA is dangerous? Is that how it works? "Meh, I come from crimeland, USA... so I shouldn't mind being stabbed one or twice for an ipad...".

My dad was an Argentine, and I am married to one. Argentina is a GREAT country, in so many ways better than a lot of countries I know. I wish the best for the country in which my kids are growing. But, "denialists", like the ones in the government, are the ones damaging this country, not an expat saying how he/she feels about safety.

As the local saying goes "Mal de otro consuelo de tonto".

 

[Rich One]

......Its like the threads with politics, when something negative is posted about Argentina / BA, some feel the need to immediately strike up the comparison that "well in the states its worse..."...

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One should not react to the LOCAL Knee Jerk reaction ...I VOS?
(useful concept)

 

[fifs2]

, "denialists", like the ones in the government, are the ones damaging this country, not an expat saying how he/she feels about safety.




Quote of the week!

 

[braytrain]

There are a lot of Argentines on this site and a lot of expats that have been here for many, many years (I am not one of them). I think it is disrespectful by claiming you are more local than them, like your opinion is more valid, thats all. You are definitely entitled to your opinion though.

I didn´t say my opinion is more valid, I said it´s different. Please do not start an argument because you are unable to understand what I am saying, or because you are offended that I singled you out. It´s different because you cannot view me solely as an EXPAT or as a LOCAL. Whereas YOU are an EXPAT, and Dr. Rubilar is a LOCAL. Like you said, you are not one of those expats who has been here for a many years. If one of them, like Citygirl, says that they are disrespected by what I wrote (after explaining myself fully in the follow up post to Citygirl) then let THEM take it up with me. Me saying I am ¨more local¨ than you is not me saying something disrespectful, it´s me saying something truthful. And I didn´t say anything about it holding more weight, I just said that when people judge me for being either expat or local, that they know their crap first.

And I would also like to state that just because Raymond agrees with me, doesn´t mean I share all of his views. Do not group me with him because I don´t know him and he doesn´t know me.

 

[trennod]

I didn´t say my opinion is more valid, I said it´s different. Please do not start an argument because you are unable to understand what I am saying, or because you are offended that I singled you out. It´s different because you cannot view me solely as an EXPAT or as a LOCAL. Whereas YOU are an EXPAT, and Dr. Rubilar is a LOCAL. Like you said, you are not one of those expats who has been here for a many years. If one of them, like Citygirl, says that they are disrespected by what I wrote (after explaining myself fully in the follow up post to Citygirl) then let THEM take it up with me. Me saying I am ¨more local¨ than you is not me saying something disrespectful, it´s me saying something truthful. And I didn´t say anything about it holding more weight, I just said that when people judge me for being either expat or local, that they know their crap first.

And I would also like to state that just because Raymond agrees with me, doesn´t mean I share all of his views. Do not group me with him because I don´t know him and he doesn´t know me.

To be honest, I really dont mind what you class yourself as: local, tourist, expat, president. I still dont agree with your opinion and how you derailed the thread.

But hey, why dont we just agree to disagree, its almost home time for me.

 

[braytrain]

To be honest, I really dont mind what you class yourself as: local, tourist, expat, president. I still dont agree with your opinion and how you derailed the thread.

But hey, why dont we just agree to disagree, its almost home time for me.

Say what you want. Like you said, if ¨this is how you comfort yourself.¨

 

[earlyretirement]

braytrain - Just a simple question for you. It sounds like you have been living in Buenos Aires for at least a few years now. So honestly tell me if you think crime in Buenos Aires is (a) better than when you first arrived; (b) worse than when you first arrived; or (c) the same as when you first arrived?

Thanks.

 

[Markgeezer]

Just back from my local "supermercadito" where I was present during an armed robbery and glad I didn't take my kids. Hooded motorcyclists as is usual in this manor. It all happened so fast, that I didn't notice until I got to the empty tills and people out on the streets. The policia arrived five minutes later.. a bit slow !!! Owner (fantastic Italian blood women) sat on the pavement suffering from her X(3-4th?) robbery in the last 3 months. this was Avenida Udaondo, GBA, Parque Leloir if you know it, but having lived in this district for 9 years, armed robbery has only surfaced here in the last 12 months.

 

[Happy Camper]

Nice to hear - and that is genuinely meant.

How long have you lived there? Why do you feel it has gotten safer recently?

We moved in about 6 Months ago, the feeling of saftey has come from the 24hr guards that recently have been given 12 gauge shotgun's to carry and the fencing that surrounds the property.