The Ghost of Peronism: Why Argentina Keeps Making the Same Mistakes

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"peronism" has changed quite a bit since the late 40s.
Peron, himself, was both a military officer, an admirer of Mussolini and Franco, and pretty conservative by todays standards. The Peronists I know today share very few policy opinions with Peron himself.
He cut a complicated deal between the military, the wealthy oligarchs, the church, and the unions.
Current governments have to deal with some of the same players, and many other ones.
The main objection mentioned was nationalizing industries- not really a big part of today's problems- Edenor and Edesur, for instance have long since been privatized, along with most of the oil industry, the electric generation industry, most of the telephone and communications infrastructure, and on and on.
Whats left thats state owned is a pretty short list. YPF to some degree, the water utilities, public television and Banco Nacion. Most european countries have far more government owned industries.
Other than that, this article doesnt talk about what is called Peronism today at all.
For instance, I am currently reading an interesting history of failed public housing projects in Argentina, in which Peron considered tearing down huge swaths of private buildings, and I cant imagine anything like that happening today.

 

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Same old, same old nonsense, written by some clown in a fancy suit who's never been here*
"A hundred years ago Argentina was one of the wealthiest blah blah blah". This same crap has been regurgitated so many times that it's not even worth reading past the first three paragraphs.



*check his bio; he's in Perth, and appears to be from Brazil. Check his list of articles, and it's clear from the titles that he's hard right.
 

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Same old, same old nonsense, written by some clown in a fancy suit who's never been here*
"A hundred years ago Argentina was one of the wealthiest blah blah blah". This same crap has been regurgitated so many times that it's not even worth reading past the first three paragraphs.



*check his bio; he's in Perth, and appears to be from Brazil. Check his list of articles, and it's clear from the titles that he's hard right.
You did not read the article, but his bio?

What is factually wrong with "A hundred years ago Argentina was one of the wealthiest countries"?
 

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Same old, same old nonsense, written by some clown in a fancy suit who's never been here*
"A hundred years ago Argentina was one of the wealthiest blah blah blah". This same crap has been regurgitated so many times that it's not even worth reading past the first three paragraphs.



*check his bio; he's in Perth, and appears to be from Brazil. Check his list of articles, and it's clear from the titles that he's hard right.
You did not read the article, but his bio?

What is factually wrong with "A hundred years ago Argentina was one of the wealthiest countries"?
It's really not news anymore, any writer with pretentions to writing a serious article about Argentina can skip over that part, we've already read it many times already.

But the rest of the article is also pretty bad. Reading past the first 3 paragraphs, just for laughs, brings you to the part where Peron was democratically elected president in 1946, but somehow, incoherently, "Peronism took (and retained) a brutal dictatorial character even after the defeat of National Socialism in World War II". That, and the claimed Evita idolatry make me want to get out and see all Peron's concentration camps and the shrines to Evita on every corner. Oh, wait...

There are many valid criticisms of Evita and Peron, but this vacuous, superficial twit with an extreme right wing agenda just wanted to screw the pooch.
 

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It's really not news anymore, any writer with pretentions to writing a serious article about Argentina can skip over that part, we've already read it many times already.

It does seems like many articles by the foreign press mention something about peronism, economic problems, and tango. It's always very surface level too. I learn more from reading posts here about Argentine history.
 

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It does seems like many articles by the foreign press mention something about peronism, economic problems, and tango. It's always very surface level too. I learn more from reading posts here about Argentine history.
Speaking of which, did you know that Nestor K was elected Presidente in 2003 with just 22% of the popular vote? In the first round!

Apparently, the country was such a Charlie Foxtrot in 2003 that nobody wanted the job except Menem, and he dropped out of the race because the polls showed him losing by a landslide, and he didn't want to suffer a humiliating defeat.
 

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As far as that Charlie Foxtrot comment, after De La Rua resigned -

Ramon Puerta was President for 2 days
Adolfo Rodriguez Saa was President for 8 days
Eduardo Camaño was President for 3 days
Duhalde was President for 4 and a half months.

and then Nestor was President for 4 years and 7 months.

So, quite literally, within a space of 15 days, Argentina had five different presidents.

And we thought it was embarrassing the way Dick Nixon pulled the dipsy-doodle with Gerald Ford!
 

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Peronism is one of the reasons Argentina is a mess, but it's by far not the only one.

That being said, Epoch Times is literally the official English language newspaper of the Falun Gong/Dafa cult, the same group which has gone full Qanon/COVID vaccines kill you/Trump won 2020 crazy in the US and supporting far-right politicians in Europe like Marine Le Pen and AfD in Germany.

There's better critical analyses of contemporary Argentine political economy, economics, and Peronism than a Chinese cult's version of the Daily Mail...
 
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