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The Islamophobic crusade
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A poorly documented piece of writing. Moreover, if you read the entire Blumenthal article not one word is devoted to describing the core tenets of Islam - kind of odd given the subject matter, don't you think?
Is that because Islam is a supremacist, totalitarian, misogynistic, homophobic, religio-ideology that denies equal treatment under the law (sharia) to all women and non-Musliims, prescribes death and mutilation for homosexual and premarital sex, prescribes death for blasphemy (no freedom of speech) and apostasy (no freedom of thought or conscience). Not to mention the ideological goal of the establishment of a world wide caliphat/theocracy wherein unelected religious figures have authority over democratically elected officials.
How ironic that those who oppose such a belief system are vilified as rightwingers. Aren't those that argue in support of such an ideology the true rightwingers?
Please check out a humourous counter point that makes a lot more sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNQ1zc-q74&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
While at the Pat Condell site, listen to some of his other hilarious comments on culture, islam and religion.
Is that because Islam is a supremacist, totalitarian, misogynistic, homophobic, religio-ideology that denies equal treatment under the law (sharia) to all women and non-Musliims, prescribes death and mutilation for homosexual and premarital sex, prescribes death for blasphemy (no freedom of speech) and apostasy (no freedom of thought or conscience). Not to mention the ideological goal of the establishment of a world wide caliphat/theocracy wherein unelected religious figures have authority over democratically elected officials.
How ironic that those who oppose such a belief system are vilified as rightwingers. Aren't those that argue in support of such an ideology the true rightwingers?
Please check out a humourous counter point that makes a lot more sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNQ1zc-q74&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
While at the Pat Condell site, listen to some of his other hilarious comments on culture, islam and religion.
The Christians, especially the Catholics, out there may enjoy this lengthy debate between Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch.org and Boston College Prof of Philosophy Peter Kreeft.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/k...ipt-is-the-only-good-muslim-a-bad-muslim.html
(Audience Questioner No. 5: "First of all, I'd like to say that it's nice to be at a college where we can have a debate on Islam where the faculty and students are not outside shouting obscenities.")
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/k...ipt-is-the-only-good-muslim-a-bad-muslim.html
(Audience Questioner No. 5: "First of all, I'd like to say that it's nice to be at a college where we can have a debate on Islam where the faculty and students are not outside shouting obscenities.")
Who do you think wins in Islamic states?
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?705643
"Pakistan's top Islamic body has opposed the repeal of the controversial blasphemy laws that has been used by a court to sentence a Christian woman to death, which has sparked an outrage in the country and abroad."
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?705643
"Pakistan's top Islamic body has opposed the repeal of the controversial blasphemy laws that has been used by a court to sentence a Christian woman to death, which has sparked an outrage in the country and abroad."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/25/world/middleeast/25iraq.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=a22
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Throughout Iraq, churches canceled or toned down Christmas observances this year, both in response to threats of violence and in honor of the nearly 60 Christians killed in October, when militants stormed a Syrian Catholic church and blew themselves up. Since the massacre, more than 1,000 Christian families have fled Baghdad for the Kurdistan region in northern Iraq, with others going to Jordan or Syria or Turkey. Though the exact size of Iraq’s Christian population is unclear, by some estimates it has fallen to about 500,000 from a high of 1.4 million before the American-led invasion of 2003. Iraq’s total population is about 30 million.
This week, a new threat appeared on a Web site that said it represented the Islamic State of Iraq, a militant group that claimed responsibility for the October church siege. The Web site referred to a church in Egypt that it said was holding two women because they had converted to Islam, and vowed more carnage. “We swear to God, if there are only two of us left,” the text read, “one of the two will keep fighting you.”
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Who is "you?"
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Throughout Iraq, churches canceled or toned down Christmas observances this year, both in response to threats of violence and in honor of the nearly 60 Christians killed in October, when militants stormed a Syrian Catholic church and blew themselves up. Since the massacre, more than 1,000 Christian families have fled Baghdad for the Kurdistan region in northern Iraq, with others going to Jordan or Syria or Turkey. Though the exact size of Iraq’s Christian population is unclear, by some estimates it has fallen to about 500,000 from a high of 1.4 million before the American-led invasion of 2003. Iraq’s total population is about 30 million.
This week, a new threat appeared on a Web site that said it represented the Islamic State of Iraq, a militant group that claimed responsibility for the October church siege. The Web site referred to a church in Egypt that it said was holding two women because they had converted to Islam, and vowed more carnage. “We swear to God, if there are only two of us left,” the text read, “one of the two will keep fighting you.”
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Who is "you?"
http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/...s-arson-in-jos-borno&catid=43:news&Itemid=799
In Maiduguri, the Borno State capital, pandemonium reigned as people suspected to be members of the Boko Haram religious group went on the rampage torching churches and structures believed to be owned by Christians.
A pastor of the Baptist Church , Rev. Bulus T. Narya, was confirmed killed at the front of his church at the Alamderi Dala area of the city and the place of worship was set ablaze.
Also, the Church of Christ in Nigeria (COCIN) was said to be on fire as at press time.
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http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1248187534610&pagename=Zone-English-News%2FNWELayout
In Maiduguri, the Borno State capital, pandemonium reigned as people suspected to be members of the Boko Haram religious group went on the rampage torching churches and structures believed to be owned by Christians.
A pastor of the Baptist Church , Rev. Bulus T. Narya, was confirmed killed at the front of his church at the Alamderi Dala area of the city and the place of worship was set ablaze.
Also, the Church of Christ in Nigeria (COCIN) was said to be on fire as at press time.
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http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1248187534610&pagename=Zone-English-News%2FNWELayout
Boko Haram means "Western education is sinful" in the Hausa language spoken across northern Nigeria and sums up the main pillar of the group's ideology. Many believe the group members may have been brainwashed into seeing western education as evil.
They speak only Arabic, as they believe English is the language with which the West spread immorality and corruption worldwide.
The group also has a deep-seated aversion for anything modelled after the Christian West, from mode of dressing to conduct of public affairs.
Ismaila Tukur, a Bauchi resident, says the group was known for preaching against anything capable of whittling down the influence of Islam.
An update...http://www.thisdayonline.info/nview.php?id=190764
"A previously unknown group, Jama'atu ahlus-Sunnah Lidda'awati wal Jihad, yesterday claimed responsibility for the Christmas Eve bomb blasts in Jos, Plateau State, and attacks in some parts of Borno State which claimed 32 lives."
They speak only Arabic, as they believe English is the language with which the West spread immorality and corruption worldwide.
The group also has a deep-seated aversion for anything modelled after the Christian West, from mode of dressing to conduct of public affairs.
Ismaila Tukur, a Bauchi resident, says the group was known for preaching against anything capable of whittling down the influence of Islam.
An update...http://www.thisdayonline.info/nview.php?id=190764
"A previously unknown group, Jama'atu ahlus-Sunnah Lidda'awati wal Jihad, yesterday claimed responsibility for the Christmas Eve bomb blasts in Jos, Plateau State, and attacks in some parts of Borno State which claimed 32 lives."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/islamic-apartheid.html
Bibi's imprisonment has captured international attention, and highlighted the irony of massive American aid to a so-called ally that leaves unmolested entire regions under the control of terrorist tribes and militias, and maintains theocratic, intolerant laws.
Whenever someone tells you that Islam is a tolerant "religion of peace," ask him about Asia Bibi. Are the Muslim authorities in Pakistan who demand her execution Islamic heretics? ...Ask your multiculturalist interlocutor which Christian or Jewish countries are imprisoning Muslims today for blaspheming the majority religion. Ask them to name the last time a Muslim was ever imprisoned in a Western country for purely religious reasons.
Bibi's imprisonment has captured international attention, and highlighted the irony of massive American aid to a so-called ally that leaves unmolested entire regions under the control of terrorist tribes and militias, and maintains theocratic, intolerant laws.
Whenever someone tells you that Islam is a tolerant "religion of peace," ask him about Asia Bibi. Are the Muslim authorities in Pakistan who demand her execution Islamic heretics? ...Ask your multiculturalist interlocutor which Christian or Jewish countries are imprisoning Muslims today for blaspheming the majority religion. Ask them to name the last time a Muslim was ever imprisoned in a Western country for purely religious reasons.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/malaysia-islamic-agency-vows-to-enforce-islamic-apostasy-law.html
Malaysia: Islamic agency vows to enforce Islamic apostasy law
Islamic apologists in the U.S. routinely deny that Islamic law mandates that apostates from Islam be murdered.
"Rev. Lorenz is then quoted in a local television station report saying that if a Muslim leaves his religion and does not return to Islam in a couple of days, then he must be killed. He claims that someone showed him the verse. There is no such verse, Rev. Lorenz. In every faith, apostasy is shunned but ultimate judgment is left to God, not people." -- Salam al-Marayati
"A Muslim's conversion to Christianity is not a crime punishable by death under Islamic law." -- M. Cherif Bassiouni
"It becomes really difficult, in light of this information, to persuasively argue that Islamic Law should permit a death penalty for apostasy." -- Ali Eteraz
Unfortunately for the apostates, the facts are otherwise.
Muhammad, the prophet of Islam and supreme example of conduct for the Muslim (cf. Qur'an 33:21), said: "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him." (Bukhari 9.84.57)
The Tafsir al-Qurtubi, a classic and thoroughly mainstream exegesis of the Qur'an, says this about Qur'an 2:217: "Scholars disagree about whether or not apostates are asked to repent. One group say that they are asked to repent and, if they do not, they are killed. Some say they are given an hour and others a month. Others say that they are asked to repent three times, and that is the view of Malik. Al-Hasan said they are asked a hundred times. It is also said that they are killed without being asked to repent."
All the schools of Islamic jurisprudence all teach that a sane adult male who leaves Islam must be killed. They have some disagreements about what must he done with other types of people who leave Islam, but they have no disagreement on that.
The internationally renowned Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who has been praised as a "reformist" by pseudo-academic John Esposito, has said this about Islamic apostasy law: "That is why the Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi`i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-`ashriyyah, Al-Ja`fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed."
And now this story from Malaysia wouldn't make any sense whatsoever unless there actually were a penalty for apostasy.
"Jheains To Enforce Apostasy Law," from Bernama, December 25 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Malaysia: Islamic agency vows to enforce Islamic apostasy law
Islamic apologists in the U.S. routinely deny that Islamic law mandates that apostates from Islam be murdered.
"Rev. Lorenz is then quoted in a local television station report saying that if a Muslim leaves his religion and does not return to Islam in a couple of days, then he must be killed. He claims that someone showed him the verse. There is no such verse, Rev. Lorenz. In every faith, apostasy is shunned but ultimate judgment is left to God, not people." -- Salam al-Marayati
"A Muslim's conversion to Christianity is not a crime punishable by death under Islamic law." -- M. Cherif Bassiouni
"It becomes really difficult, in light of this information, to persuasively argue that Islamic Law should permit a death penalty for apostasy." -- Ali Eteraz
Unfortunately for the apostates, the facts are otherwise.
Muhammad, the prophet of Islam and supreme example of conduct for the Muslim (cf. Qur'an 33:21), said: "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him." (Bukhari 9.84.57)
The Tafsir al-Qurtubi, a classic and thoroughly mainstream exegesis of the Qur'an, says this about Qur'an 2:217: "Scholars disagree about whether or not apostates are asked to repent. One group say that they are asked to repent and, if they do not, they are killed. Some say they are given an hour and others a month. Others say that they are asked to repent three times, and that is the view of Malik. Al-Hasan said they are asked a hundred times. It is also said that they are killed without being asked to repent."
All the schools of Islamic jurisprudence all teach that a sane adult male who leaves Islam must be killed. They have some disagreements about what must he done with other types of people who leave Islam, but they have no disagreement on that.
The internationally renowned Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who has been praised as a "reformist" by pseudo-academic John Esposito, has said this about Islamic apostasy law: "That is why the Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi`i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-`ashriyyah, Al-Ja`fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed."
And now this story from Malaysia wouldn't make any sense whatsoever unless there actually were a penalty for apostasy.
"Jheains To Enforce Apostasy Law," from Bernama, December 25 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=43062
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Mauritania abolished slavery in 1981 but it still persists in some parts of the country."
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Mauritania abolished slavery in 1981 but it still persists in some parts of the country."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/27/AR2010122701258.html
" MOGADISHU, Somalia -- A leader of Somalia's Islamist insurgency threatened to attack America during a speech broadcast Monday.
"We tell the American President Barack Obama to embrace Islam before we come to his country," said Fuad Mohamed "Shongole" Qalaf.
Al-Shabab has not yet launched an attack outside Africa but Western intelligence has long been worried because the group targeted young Somali-Americans for recruitment. About 20 have traveled to Somalia for training and at least three were used as suicide bombers inside Somalia.
Al-Shabab holds most of southern and central Somalia and has the support of hundreds of foreign fighters, mostly radicalized East Africans. It seeks to overthrow the weak U.N.-backed government, which is protected by 8,000 Ugandan and Burundian African Union peacekeepers.
The al-Shabab militia launched coordinated suicide attacks in Uganda in July that killed 76 people. It has also announced its allegiance to al-Qaida and is believed to be harboring a mastermind of the twin 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed 224 people. ....
The arid Horn of Africa nation has not had a functioning government since a socialist dictatorship collapsed in 1991. Its position on the Horn of Africa means pirates can use its long coastline to capture shipping.
Analysts fear that al-Qaida linked insurgents are also gaining ground across the Gulf of Aden in the unstable nation of Yemen. If Yemen fell, that would mean failed states on either side of the shipping route leading into the strategically vital Suez Canal, the route taken by a substantial portion of the world's oil shipments."
" MOGADISHU, Somalia -- A leader of Somalia's Islamist insurgency threatened to attack America during a speech broadcast Monday.
"We tell the American President Barack Obama to embrace Islam before we come to his country," said Fuad Mohamed "Shongole" Qalaf.
Al-Shabab has not yet launched an attack outside Africa but Western intelligence has long been worried because the group targeted young Somali-Americans for recruitment. About 20 have traveled to Somalia for training and at least three were used as suicide bombers inside Somalia.
Al-Shabab holds most of southern and central Somalia and has the support of hundreds of foreign fighters, mostly radicalized East Africans. It seeks to overthrow the weak U.N.-backed government, which is protected by 8,000 Ugandan and Burundian African Union peacekeepers.
The al-Shabab militia launched coordinated suicide attacks in Uganda in July that killed 76 people. It has also announced its allegiance to al-Qaida and is believed to be harboring a mastermind of the twin 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed 224 people. ....
The arid Horn of Africa nation has not had a functioning government since a socialist dictatorship collapsed in 1991. Its position on the Horn of Africa means pirates can use its long coastline to capture shipping.
Analysts fear that al-Qaida linked insurgents are also gaining ground across the Gulf of Aden in the unstable nation of Yemen. If Yemen fell, that would mean failed states on either side of the shipping route leading into the strategically vital Suez Canal, the route taken by a substantial portion of the world's oil shipments."