The Misuse Of Cadena Nacional

[Gringoboy]

At least we're being spared a cadena nacional for 48 hours.
Apparently she's got laryngitis.

 

[TWB103]

Its so Argentina to say ''Well they do it too. And they started it. But at least we arent so bad..''

 

[Gringoboy]

The law can be twisted to fit the needs of whoever is in power. This happens all over the world, and Argentina is no different. That doesn't make it right, but it is reality. The Ks regard the dominance of the (opposition) media as an institutional threat. It's not necessarily my opinion, but it's what they believe. Given the amount of lies published by the major media outlets here, they could probably make a pretty decent case for it. I'd rather her use the cadena nacional than set a nasty precedent of going after journalists...

Secondly -- and I think the advice has been given before -- if you don't like it, just turn it off. No one is forcing you to watch it; but if you wish to have a broad perspective of the issues in Argentina, this is not very wise in my opinion.

As for me, I am not paid by any government, but life experiences have made it a personal mission of mine to sift through all of the so-called "journalism" we see in media today in order to best understand certain issues. It is no secret that Clarín Group and La Nación set the agenda in this country, and Clarín Group (at least) consistently misinforms people in this country and abroad. (Edited to add: The government media lies far less because it spends all of its time responding to the obvious lies put forth by Clarín Group et al. This is ironic given how much they rail against Clarín's dominance. It's also convenient because they don't have to do any "real" reporting.) So, I am not on this forum to insult someone for his/her opinion. I am more interested in a civil discussion and understanding these issues to their core.

Finally, no one should trust what I write. You should ask your own questions, do your own research and come to your own conclusions.

Where can one find the repudiation of the Clarin story about Maximo and Garre?
And why are you referencing Cristina at Harvard? Is there a suggestion that the students asking the questions were Clarin plants?
I'd be interested to hear a little more as to your reasoning for these two references Bradly.

 

[sesamosinsal]

Where can one find the repudiation of the Clarin story about Maximo and Garre?
And why are you referencing Cristina at Harvard? Is there a suggestion that the students asking the questions were Clarin plants?
I'd be interested to hear a little more as to your reasoning for these two references Bradly.

Despite the bank issuing a statement saying that no such accounts exist, there has never been a retraction. Most serious outlets would at least put a statement below the article to mention such a serious development. If you go to the Clarín article -- which is written almost entirely using the conditional mood -- there is no such statement. At this point, it wouldn't really matter if they did because the damage is already done.

As far as the Harvard case, both questions asked by the Venezuelan (he sounds Venezuelan to me) guy are examples of how the media twists stories. Regarding INDEC, the whole controversy about people eating for "6 pesos por día" was based on an INDEC report that cited an offer from the supermarket Carrefour.

From Infobae, (my translation):

“In August of 2009, we launched this as a social responsibility policy. The price hasn’t always been the same. It began at $4.50 per person per day, and it has increased to $6,99 as of today,” said Velazco.

That’s what [Velazco] said in reference to a special offer from Carrefour that promises to feed a typical family for 14 days for $391. After a series of calculations, the math concluded that to feed a person through this special plan costs about $6.90 per day.

The offer was associated with INDEC after the official agency reported that one could consume four meals per day for only 6 pesos. However, the company representative [Velazco] clarified that the Carrefour offer is simply a company decision.

“It’s an action of company responsibility. I heard a person say that it was impossible because just a pack of milk costs 7 pesos. But here what Carrefour does is make an effort to help the people who most need it."

...

The nutritionist Andra Rochaix, a consultant for the list of products, told Radio 10 that the menu is balanced and covers the basic necessities of a person.

“It’s a balanced menu, focused on low income people. It’s composed of the five basic groups of food, for a typical family of four people, and individually it covers the 2,000 calories needed daily, with carbohydrates, proteins, total fats and it covers a very good quantity of critical nutrients,” she said.

For example, the specialist [Rochaix] said that with this menu, a person can have a breakfast with a glass of milk and a slice of bread; the lunch includes tuna, chicken or meat salads; and the other meal consists of pasta or some rice. The plan also includes 400 grams of fruit per day.

The purpose of INDEC mentioning this was not to state that on average people can eat on 6 pesos a day. The point was to say that if necessary, one could.

The second question asked by the student was why she (CFK) told Argentines to fear her. The headline from Clarín: "One must fear God and me, just a little" -- Reading just the headline, it would make sense why the student asked this question. However, the headline was cherry-picked. She wasn't referring to the entire country, but to all of the people in her administration regarding corruption.

 

[Gringoboy]

"To all of the people in her administration regarding corruption...."
Hmmm, that would make sense if indeed she were whiter than white and had achieved the vast increase in her net worth through 100% legal means.
And yes, they do cherry pick, especially since they are at war with the administration and I wouldn't really expect much more from the Clarin group.
The INDEC point in saying that one could eat on $6 per day, even then, was ultimately self defeating, regardless of its now tarnished reputation, because it gives the impression of "Let them eat cake" and to hell with you kind of attitude.

 

[camberiu]

One who desperately needs a Cadena Nacional is Dilma, who just saw her approval rate (7.7%) dip lower than Brazil's projected inflation rate for 2015 (9.5%)

 

[sesamosinsal]

"To all of the people in her administration regarding corruption...."
Hmmm, that would make sense if indeed she were whiter than white and had achieved the vast increase in her net worth through 100% legal means.
And yes, they do cherry pick, especially since they are at war with the administration and I wouldn't really expect much more from the Clarin group.
The INDEC point in saying that one could eat on $6 per day, even then, was ultimately self defeating, regardless of its now tarnished reputation, because it gives the impression of "Let them eat cake" and to hell with you kind of attitude.

We agree here. There is significant corruption on all levels.

 

[scotttswan]

One good thing about the misuse of Cadena Nacional are these photos.

 

[camberiu]

When I say that Brazil is not Argentina, this is what I mean. High inflation is politically unacceptable in Brazil. Any government today that takes the high inflation route is committing political suicide. I am very skeptical that Dilma will finish her term. If an impeachment happens, I expect political change to have profound impact on Argentina's economy. It is Dilma who insists in subsidize Argentina by accepting their violations of the Mercosur treaty without repercussions. Her successor would face tremendous political pressure to change that posture.


63% of Brazilians want to impeach their president. Here's why.

 

[Gringoboy]

Ejcot mate, you missed the wardrobe malfunction......perhaps not.