The Royal Wedding

StevePalermo said:
Its not about the money, its about our self respect. We want a vote, not a monarchy.

Uh, maybe I am mistaken but I am under the impression that you Brits do have a vote to elect leaders who have actual power and that these days the
Royals are largely symbolic and slightly inbred figureheads?
 
We're too used to licking the back of the Queen's head to get rid of her now...
 
StevePalermo said:
I'm no supporter of the monarchy and thought Diana was just another privileged aristocrat living off the state, but Al Fayed, the father of her lover is a very nasty piece of work and about as trustworthy as Bernard Madoff. The modern state is capable of anything, but the royal family assassinating Diana is pure fantasy.

Why can't he be trusted? Because he is an Arab?

And why is the theory that she was assassinated pure fantasy? You yourself admit that they could have executed such a hit.

In 1999, a French investigation concluded the Mercedes had come into contact with another vehicle (a white Fiat Uno) in the tunnel. The driver of that vehicle has never come forward, and the vehicle itself has not officially been identified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

Now that I find extremely odd.
 
dr__dawggy said:
Uh, maybe I am mistaken but I am under the impression that you Brits do have a vote to elect leaders who have actual power and that these days the
Royals are largely symbolic and slightly inbred figureheads?
Agreed that they are inbred, and that we do have a vote for parliamentary leaders, but not for the head of state. It is symbolic, but still important. Would you want an inbred reactionary like Charlie as your head of state?
 
tanvimil said:
Why can't he be trusted? Because he is an Arab?

And why is the theory that she was assassinated pure fantasy? You yourself admit that they could have executed such a hit.

Now that I find extremely odd.

Not because he's an Arab. I believe that any race can produce an untrustworthy scoundrel like Al Fayed. Someone like Madoff perhaps, like I mentioned in my earlier post. Don't think he's an Arab. And yes, they 'could have executed such a hit'. So could I, so could a lot of people, but with the absolute lack of evidence, and I don't include the possible presence of another car in the vicinity as evidence, I'd put it in the realms of fantasy. And this is my last comment on this... someone who believes that the royal family assassinated Diana probably believes in fairies too. Got better things to do with my time than argue this one.
 
What is now "royalty" are simply the blood lines of the most powerful, ruthless, scheming, belicose land acquirers of ancient times who over long years of war, murder, intrigue, serfdom, inbreeding and injustice have gained respectability.
F*ck royalty and the horse it rode in on.
 
StevePalermo said:
Agreed that they are inbred, and that we do have a vote for parliamentary leaders, but not for the head of state. It is symbolic, but still important. Would you want an inbred reactionary like Charlie as your head of state?

Well, we endured George W. Bush for eight years. How bad could Charles be after that experience?
 
StevePalermo said:
I believe that any race can produce an untrustworthy scoundrel like Al Fayed.

Well I also would like some evidence, and in this case that the guy is untrustworthy like you claim. I read his Wikipedia page and by judging from that, he is quite the opposite.

StevePalermo said:
but with the absolute lack of evidence, and I don't include the possible presence of another car in the vicinity as evidence, I'd put it in the realms of fantasy.

According to the police it is confirmed that Diana's car hit another car. That's very different from being in the vicinity. And knowing the exact color and model of the car in conjunction with the media coverage, I would say it's very plausible that the car was never handed into a mechanic to be fixed.
If that driver was not a part of a conspiracy to kill Diana, then he must have had pretty good reasons not to make himself known to the police. Imagine the odds of something like that happening.

Although despite that, I don't believe in it either, due to lack of evidence. But I do find the conspiracy theory the most plausible theory.

And if you are obsessed with Diana, like Gringoboy is, then it would only be natural that you would demand that proper inquires be made. Instead of just pretending that the anomalies aren't there. But obviously he doesn't want to go down that road, because if true, it would spoil his fairytale picture of the royal family.

dr__dawggy said:
Well, we endured George W. Bush for eight years. How bad could Charles be after that experience?

And Obama is different?
 
tanvimil said:
And Obama is different?
Yes. Very.
It's one thing to lie your country into a war. It's another to extricate the country from it. Bush lacked intellect and gravitas. Obama has both in much greater quantities. The failure of his foreign and domestic policies to become enacted in tact have more to do with corrupt Congressmen than a lack of decent ideas and principles.
 
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