trapped in argentina

[mini]

Whether or not OP is making up HIS story or not, the premise certainly IS possible & could be true. Argentine citizens must leave on their Argentine passports, no other. And I don't think the Canadian embassy can help. They can not get involved as the OP is a Argentine citizen. Embassies can not interfere with local laws/citizens.

 

[Celia]

But the OP says he got into trouble because he overstayed some sort of 60 day limit....that doesn't make sense, it implies if he had left earlier they wouldn't have required him to show the Arg passport.

 

[bigbadwolf]

But the OP says he got into trouble because he overstayed some sort of 60 day limit....that doesn't make sense, it implies if he had left earlier they wouldn't have required him to show the Arg passport.

You are right. Scenario 1: He/she/it has both Canadian and Argentinian citizenship. Then no limit to stay when he/she/it presents Argentinian passport to immigration control. Scenario 2: He/she/it has a Canadian passport only. Then the Argentinian authorities cannot detain or stop return of said person to Canada regardless of place of birth. Reductio ad absurdum. And Q.E.D., incidentally, to the absurdity of the initial claim.

 

[RWS]

Rather claro, isn't it? The wonder is that we played along.

 

[Celia]

I was told my son would always need an Arg passport to exit, so presumably if he returned in 20 years with just his brit one, he could be detained.

 

[bigbadwolf]

I was told my son would always need an Arg passport to exit, so presumably if he returned in 20 years with just his brit one, he could be detained.

He arrives on his British passport, which is stamped for 90 days -- and he leaves within that period on the same passport. Alternatively, he arrives on his Arg passport, when his stay is unlimited. But now he cannot leave on the British passport because it was never stamped. He has to show his Arg passport to immigration to explain why his stay was without time constraints.

 

[Celia]

From the US embassy website:

"Even if your child acquired US citizenship at birth and has been issued a US passport, if he or she was born in Argentina, under Argentine law the child will be an Argentine citizen. All births in Argentina must be recorded with the Argentine civil registry officials, and under Argentine law, all Argentines must travel with an Argentine passport."
The US or UK passport shows he is born in Argentina and so they will automatically ask to see the Arg one on entry and deperture.​

 

[Lucas]

Regardless if it is or it is not an April fools joke it is a good opportunity to explain some points over this or similar situations.

You were born in Argentina

When you are two years old your parents decide to emigrate to, say Iceland

To leave Argentina your parents need to have your passport and DNI issued by the federal police, if not, you cannot leave the country.

Now you are 22 years old and decide to have a holiday to enjoy yourself and to know the country you born in

You have a passport issued by Iceland, and you travel on that passport to Argentina, when you arrive migrations tell you that you have so many days on that passport and then you need to leave the country (they know you were born in Argentina because the Iceland passport says so).

Now for some unforeseen reason or because you are plain stupid you pass the deadline and overstay, from that point you are not under the umbrella of Iceland protection, now you are under Argentinean law (actually since you put your feet in the country you are under Argentinean law because your status is an Argentinean native, no much any country can do about it, but in the other case if you did not overstay your visitors visa you did not broke any lawn then you can leave the country with your Iceland passport, now if you do break the law by over staying, then you will be detain to explain, if you are carrying two passports a Arg. and Ice. passports (both must by current) on you when you arrived to Argentina, then there is no problem, just present your Argentine passport to migrations to depart to Iceland no questions asked, but you cannot use your Iceland passport to leave because your stay period is overdue and it is an infraction, here Iceland cannot voucher for you because you are a Argentinean born citizen and you are of limits to the Iceland consulate, not options there.

If you born in Argentina and you are in Argentina regardless the passport you presented when entering the country you are under their law, also your dual citizenship status it is not recognized by Argentinean authorities, in Argentina you still Argentinean, be aware.

The only way I know is by renouncing to your argentine born status, but that is another story.

 

[bigbadwolf]

From the US embassy website:

"Even if your child acquired US citizenship at birth and has been issued a US passport, if he or she was born in Argentina, under Argentine law the child will be an Argentine citizen. All births in Argentina must be recorded with the Argentine civil registry officials, and under Argentine law, all Argentines must travel with an Argentine passport."
The US or UK passport shows he is born in Argentina and so they will automatically ask to see the Arg one on entry and deperture.​

There is a mechanism to strip yourself of a second citizenship. Of course, you may still have to present the document showing you are no longer an Argentinian citizen to Argentinian immigration control. Also, I find this website information a bit curious. Before 1968, the USA did not allow dual citizenship; if one was a US citizen one could not also be a citizen of some second country. Under those circumstances, the Argentinian authorities could not insist on Argentinian passports for US citizens born in Argentina. So now presumably Argentinian authorities can insist on such papers merely because the US allows dual citizenship ...? Strange.