Vice Presidential Debate

[Rich One]

"Mesmerized Bernie crowd,' is that what you call Latino voters and people like my representative Congressman Jesús “Chuy García (IL-04) who campaigned for him? Thanks for denigrating us for exercising our right to vote. With allies like you, who needs the GOP?

Besides, the Trump campaign has already been calling Biden a Socialist and a Marxist, so the label was going to be there no matter what.

"'I would say that any lack of enthusiasm for Biden is due both to early investment from the Trump campaign to raise its standing among Latinos and to a lack of investment in Latinos from the Biden campaign,' Sindy Benavides, the chief executive officer of the League of United Latin American Citizens, told me."

Where Joe Biden Is Underperforming Hillary Clinton

The Democratic nominee has a Latino-voter problem.

www.theatlantic.com

OMG another case of sponsorship... The fastest way for a gal to get to the top...?
Che no somos nada..! I feel sick to the stomach..

 

[mc kenna]

Be wary of socialists , these days they look like sane people and some of them even respectable.......

 

[Renzi]

Such tender feet. It would be encouraging if the Bernie crowd would get over themselves, at least for now, and focus on driving Trump and all Republicans out of government. Or will there be some voting for a dictator?
Here's an honest question about Latinos, why does one get the impression they, some, are Trump supporters? Admiration for authoritarians? Anti-abortion politics? Something inherently right wing amongst Latinos? After Latin babies in cages and separated from families, disparaged and ridiculed repeatedly? I don't get it.

You don't get it because maybe you're not Latino? Your suggestions and generalizations are frankly, offensive. Many of us have come up in harsh socioecnomic conditions in the USA and our countries of origin where we have more to worry about than an incompetent, corrupt president who tweets stupid things. It has little to do with leaning right or left politically. I'm referring to complex real life struggles related to basic survival and economic mobility, two issues where the Democratic Party for decades has been only marginally better than the GOP (even on immigration: Biden under fire for mass deportations under Obama). It's not the sort of thing that most garden-variety white liberals comprehend, and they think that simply smiling at minorities and sticking a BLM sign on their lawn (or fawing over Kamala) is going to do something for us.

 

[Rich One]

Shame there will be no Presidential Debate to enjoy the show, and watch as they make fools of themselves... Joe is saved ..!

 

[artisans]

You don't get it because maybe you're not Latino? Your suggestions and generalizations are frankly, offensive. Many of us have come up in harsh socioecnomic conditions in the USA and our countries of origin where we have more to worry about than an incompetent, corrupt president who tweets stupid things. It has little to do with leaning right or left politically. I'm referring to complex real life struggles related to basic survival and economic mobility, two issues where the Democratic Party for decades has been only marginally better than the GOP (even on immigration: Biden under fire for mass deportations under Obama). It's not the sort of thing that most garden-variety white liberals comprehend, and they think that simply smiling at minorities and sticking a BLM sign on their lawn (or fawing over Kamala) is going to do something for us.

That's correct, I don't get it because I'm not Latino and I don't have a grass roots understanding of Latino issues. Which does not make me a pandering white liberal, btw. And I would say the recent mass protests by mixed races have been more than yard signs and fawning over dark skinned politicians.
So in trying to comprehend I posited to you some possible rationales, as questions not accusations. I appreciate your joyride of deriding me for what it is, but you never answer the question of why Latinos would be interested in supporting the head of a country who has denigrated, derided, used as a tools, rationed out criminal misery on poor immigrants at the border and inside and taken broad strokes with flat out racist remarks.
I did not follow the deportations under the Obama administration, but 'only marginally better'? Really? The Dreamers program?
But let's leave that aside and speak to the here and now. It's no clearer why Latinos who have been on the front lines of criminal abuse and misery in the US and Puerto Rico would think twice about supporting Trump. Like a number of people in the US with "complex real life struggles related to basic survival and economic mobility" - why would they vote against themselves?

 

[artisans]

Shame there will be no Presidential Debate to enjoy the show, and watch as they make fools of themselves... Joe is saved ..!

"they make fools of themselves"?!

 

[artisans]

In the last exchanges here I expressed my difficulties in understanding why the Latino vote in the US was anything other than anti-Trump. This CNN article does a good job of explaining and making sense of the "why" : https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/14/...ba-latin-america-voters-trump-intl/index.html
Probably what Renzi alluded to when he said " I'm referring to complex real life struggles related to basic survival and economic mobility"
Definitely worth a read this article, in raising awareness of what drives some Latinos who have migrated to the US. Then draw your own conclusions.