Why Argentines Do Not Have Bad Taste In Food

I guess at this time, it obeyed the purity law, while today its a bad tasting hangover inducer... I obviously only know the todays version and its pretty much one of the worst beers - I'd even prefer the big US brands, as a watery taste is better than a bad one ;) However, locals told me that it tasted way better before the company got sold and changed the recipes.
 
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We all know the first times we tried these cuisines, we probably didn't enjoy the experience.
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Nope, I still remember the first time I tried Thai food. I was blown away (in a good way) by the flavors, which were completely new to me. Same deal with sushi--I enjoyed raw fish from the start. I was in a nice grocery store with my mom, saw a sushi counter and asked her if I could try it. I think I was 11. Some people have more adventurous palates than others. I know Americans who prefer bland food and eat the same three things over and over. Picky eaters definitely exist. The difference is that there, being adventurous is encouraged and there really is no traditional cuisine. My in-laws will ask me things like, "What is the typical food eaten in the United States?" and I really have trouble answering because I honestly don't think there is just one dish. Here, there's whole lot of pride involved with the local cuisine, and they've been eating the same stuff for generations. It just so happens that the stuff they've been eating for generations is crap coated in pride.

I actually like Argentine food when it is prepared well, but in Buenos Aires in particular wandering into any old place will get you Argentine food prepared poorly. My husband and I wanted locro on Sunday, but there was a really long line to get in at our favorite neighborhood joint. We went to a place down the street instead. I ended up getting a milanesa, which was pretty good, but my husband's bowl of locro was mostly bones. It's just such a crapshoot. I cook mostly at home, for health reasons as much as taste/cost reasons, but when I go out, it's always to the same places for a reason...
 
[...] And even a lot of germans immigrated, but still the local "beer" is Quilmes. [...]

As far as I know: the Quilmes brewery was originally founded by Germans. Now it is part AB-InBev ... They probably brewed a good beer at the beginning. But there seems to be a worldwide trend to mass produced beer with no taste. Check out the most popular brands in the world: Heineken, Bud, ...
 
Does Quilmes get its water from the Rio Plata?
 
I guess at this time, it obeyed the purity law, while today its a bad tasting hangover inducer... I obviously only know the todays version and its pretty much one of the worst beers - I'd even prefer the big US brands, as a watery taste is better than a bad one ;) However, locals told me that it tasted way better before the company got sold and changed the recipes.

You seriously prefer Bud?
 
You seriously prefer Bud?

I have to admit its a really close call, but I prefer a bud cooled to 0 degree celsius which actually tastes like ice cold water to a quilmes which tastes bad and gives me a headache ;) A colleague in the US once told me: what's the similarity between american beer and sex in a canoe? It's both fucking close to water...
However, I also tried very good beers in the states from several microbreweries and Samuel Adams as a more mainstream brand was decent, too.
 
Personally, I suspect that alot of the Argentine problem is due to oversupply of meat. I ate in the homes of Moroccans who would be lucky to get meat once a month. So when they got it, they would get odd cuts and would have to get as much value out of it as possible; so you get these mouth watering braises and soups that seem to go on forever. Otherwise they make great use of what they can get their hands on: beans, lentils, vegetables, fish...

Here on the other hand, there's never been any need for invention, and vegetables and seafood get scorned. If the problem is lack of diversity here, it's a self-made prison.

I think you've nailed a big part of it right on the head. Immigrant communities, especially over an extended course of time, are highly influenced by the availability of ingredients and local cuisine in the country they come to, and it shapes the cultural exchange that takes place.

I think of Italian food as a good example. So many of the wonderful dishes and ingredients you get in Italy weren't the by-product of a conscious effort at producing delicious cuisine. They were born out of the reality of a largely peasant population in a Meditteranean climate with limited access to food options. Meat was expensive and in limited supply, hence the use of pork/chicken/seafood rather than beef, as these were better suited to the region than grazing beef cattle. Ditto for the fact of unique cuts, all types of sea creatures and even offal - couldn't waste it. The variety of great cheeses was because every community had to do it for themselves, using the milk (and whatever that creature ate) and preservation practices that worked best there. The herbs and vegetables were what they could get and grow in often limited spaces. The olives and wine had ancient provenance and were long staples. Grains were unrefined because the means were simple.

What we've then seen over the past couple centuries is first the wealthy and ultimately the broader population take the simpler inspirations and refine them as scarcity became less of an issue.

But put yourself in the shoes of an immigrant family from Italy in say 1910. Italy was generally quite poor at that time, and you're an economic migrant seeking a new life in Argentina. Suddenly, luxuries you couldn't dream of are cheap and in plentiful supply. Beef cuts for a fraction of the price in Italy. Milk and mild cheeses, as opposed to strong and rock-hard types you might have had in Europe. White breads. And furthermore, you don't need to make them yourself, but just go to a shop and buy them. So you trade your old ingredients (now hard to find) for what you may assess as more desirable (and obtainable) ingredients in Argentina. The tradition starts to break down...

And as Joe indicated, the very same thing happened with Italian food in North America, just differently. It changed to suit the local palate and use the ingredients that were easier to obtain or cheaper here. While the original forms didn't disappear everywhere, they were largely subsumed. The revival of some of the more "authentic" styles is in no small part due to modern palates that are demanding them. There was very little desire in my grandparents generation for "unusual ethnic cuisines", even more authentic types of European foods. It was pretty standard North American fare. But my parents generation, and now mine, have had the ability to travel more broadly, and enjoy the flavours of a constantly changing immigrant culture. The latter is a change that hasn't broadly occurred among the Argentines, and probably for a bunch of reasons.
 
A microbrewery in Patagonia told me they were having problems because they can't find good quality hops grown in Argentina and importing them from Germany was not easy. That was a couple of years ago though. It must be harder now.
 
A microbrewery in Patagonia told me they were having problems because they can't find good quality hops grown in Argentina and importing them from Germany was not easy. That was a couple of years ago though. It must be harder now.
Breweries from many countries use the imported Hallertau hops from Germany. It must be really good ;)
This summer I noticed that they were growing a lot of hops in the area around El Bolsón (I think it was south of the town but I am not positive). So maybe that is in response to the problems they were having before ...
 
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