Am I the only one who believes Christina is being given a hard time.

Before we get off on a tangent about the US which really has nothing to do with Argentina- the issues I see:

A few factors:
1) She violated all protocol and attempted to dismiss Redrardo first because he wouldn't release the reserves. Then when that was shot down, she enacted another decree for his dismissal, citing "mis-conduct" on Redrado's part. The legitimacy of this new decree was questioned as well. It's a rather heavy-handed and arbitrary action which obviously the judicial branch doesn't agree with at all.

2) Have they presented any logical reasons why now the reserves need to be released? Compelling as in verfified by an outside, impartial agency? I know there have been several (granted opposition party) politicians who are questioning if the situation warrants it.


3) They personally have a "colorful" history when it comes to their own financial dealings. Didn't the OA state that when auditing their wealth, the numbers don't add up? http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1197064 I don't know - personally, I don't think I would want to be giving the keys to the country's bank account to these two.;)
 
orwellian said:
This thread is about the president is given a hard time for no reason, and what do you guys do? Trash her without a reason.



They control it by controlling the money supply.

"Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes the laws." - Mayer Rothschild



Finally some valid critique.



That has never been proven and given the track record of U.S lies against Venezuela, why do you think this is any different? If they really wanted to send money to fund the campaign, why wouldn't they use a diplomat in that case to avoid getting caught? Or why not just wire the money? And why would they have a trial about it in Miami when the flight took off from Venezuela and landed in BA? All the "evidence" they have are some testimonies from a few guys who have cut deals with the prosecution. All that proves is how corrupt the U.S justice system is.
Read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristina_Fernández_de_Kirchner#2007

Also, who owns the private jet that the money came from? Apparently to this journalist it is owned by the CIA:
http://www.madcowprod.com/09302008.html

And the mule caught with the money is a rich Venezuelan with ties to the Venezuelan opposition and is wanted by both Argentina and Venezuela but the U.S refuses to extradite him:
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/3110

Complete nonsense but I will commend the big O on his creativity.

I see a big talent here that could be used in something like TV info-commercials selling electronic gadgets to grow hair on bald men or like products. His talents are wasted on this humble forum.
 
Cristina’s record speaks for itself. Nationalized private pension funds (30 billion), borrowed from the country’s Social Security fund Anses and now by Presidential Decree, transfer reserves from the Central Bank. Nothing less than a wannabe two-bit dictator in my view. This thing is a train wreck in the making: Constitutional Crisis.
 
gouchobob said:
Complete nonsense but I will commend the big O on his creativity.

How about you actually use arguments instead of sarcasm? Last time you were trying to debate me you wrote:
"I don't want to discuss this with you as it's obvious you are member of the looney left and cannot be swayed by logic or facts."

At least I use facts, where are yours?
 
I believe that some are missing the point and that is where is the respect for the Presidents job. Now she might not be perfect and she might have made wrong decisions but that does not give people the right to actively campaign for her disposal until the time is right at the ballot box.

I do not know one country in the world now or in history that a vice president has been so actively involved in creating dissaray and opposition to his own government . If he does not agree with their policies just resign that is the right decision for him to make .

There are much worse presidents in the world than Christina but we hear little of them in the media . Why ?

When Carlos Menem was in power there was not one negative article in foreign newspapers about him . The reverse happened and he was the foreign medias darling being shown at polo matches and mixing it with Royalty and the jet set. All articles in the 90s were glowing about Argentina even though unemployment reached 20 percent and many middle class people lost their jobs.

He played their game of selling off the country and its assets . Its all business and thats all . Damn the people if they suffer.........
 
pericles said:
I believe that some are missing the point and that is where is the respect for the Presidents job. Now she might not be perfect and she might have made wrong decisions but that does not give people the right to actively campaign for her disposal until the time is right at the ballot box.

I do not know one country in the world now or in history that a vice president has been so actively involved in creating dissaray and opposition to his own government . If he does not agree with their policies just resign that is the right decision for him to make .

There are much worse presidents in the world than Christina but we hear little of them in the media . Why ?

When Carlos Menem was in power there was not one negative article in foreign newspapers about him . The reverse happened and he was the foreign medias darling being shown at polo matches and mixing it with Royalty and the jet set. All articles in the 90s were glowing about Argentina even though unemployment reached 20 percent and many middle class people lost their jobs.
because he played the game of selling off the country and its assets . Its all business and thats all . Damn the people if they suffer.........

I don't know if the previous posters are right when it comes to using special powers. What I do know is that U.S presidents do this all the time and they never seem to complain about that. And that is pure hypocrisy.
 
pericles said:
I believe that some are missing the point and that is where is the respect for the Presidents job. Now she might not be perfect and she might have made wrong decisions but that does not give people the right to actively campaign for her disposal until the time is right at the ballot box.

I do not know one country in the world now or in history that a vice president has been so actively involved in creating dissaray and opposition to his own government . If he does not agree with their policies just resign that is the right decision for him to make .

There are much worse presidents in the world than Christina but we hear little of them in the media . Why ?

When Carlos Menem was in power there was not one negative article in foreign newspapers about him . The reverse happened and he was the foreign medias darling being shown at polo matches and mixing it with Royalty and the jet set. All articles in the 90s were glowing about Argentina even though unemployment reached 20 percent and many middle class people lost their jobs.

He played their game of selling off the country and its assets . Its all business and thats all . Damn the people if they suffer.........

I don't know think anybody is calling for her overthrown here or in the press that I've read, and Menem was just another crook as well. Also remember its really Nestor calling the shots.

I personally hope that she and her husband stick around until the big melt-down happens again which in my opinion is inevitable with these people in charge. I want the results of bad government clearly associated with those who made the bad decisions, not the next government that gets blamed while trying to clean up the mess being made now.
 
What I have observed in my two stays ( November and December, 2008 and November, 2009 ) in Buenos Aires and the countryside is that the Peronism of Argentina is absolutely breathtakingly corrupt. What they have accomplished is to have taken the worst of Chicago and broadened it to a national scale. Christina "Suitcase" Kirchner and her husband should be doing time for robbing the country blind.
Argentina has all the ingredients for greatness, but their homegrown version of socialism and crime and corruption is stifling Argentina's vitality. Hopefully, they will home grow some JFKs and Reagans of their own to restore their once economic and political greatness.
 
FloridaJim said:
What I have observed in my two stays ( November and December, 2008 and November, 2009 ) in Buenos Aires and the countryside is that the Peronism of Argentina is absolutely breathtakingly corrupt. What they have accomplished is to have taken the worst of Chicago and broadened it to a national scale. Christina "Suitcase" Kirchner and her husband should be doing time for robbing the country blind.
Argentina has all the ingredients for greatness, but their homegrown version of socialism and crime and corruption is stifling Argentina's vitality. Hopefully, they will home grow some JFKs and Reagans of their own to restore their once economic and political greatness.

Why should they do time and what illegal things have they done? All you do is post your opinions with zero facts to back it up. Show us some sources of your alleged criminal activities please.

And it's funny how you people complain so much about the current president but mention nothing about the neo-liberal policies that created the crisis in the first place. It's as if you don't think it's important.
 
You sound like one of her minions.
This person is slowly turning this place into a welfare state , . And she is doing this only to fullfill her '60s inspired retarded revolutionary romantic guerrila girl dream.
Where was she , or say all the other delincuent members of her cabinet when people were being disapeard in the '70s . I cant say I saw them ANYWHERE waving a placard aganst the genocide.ebe de Bonafini But i DO see evidence that this administration has absolutely coopted the Human Rights movement and placed that nefarios old hag Hebe de Bonafini into an organization that moves million to noone knows where.
They have coopted poverty also . Clientilism is at an alltime high
Its easy to blame an evil monolithi cmedia empire. The Media WILL report on the state of affairs.... that is just a matter of fact
Please , take the propaganda elsewhere
This I CAN tell you . Since she took office it has become almos impossible to do buissines here. EVERYONE wants a cut . EVERYONE shakes you down. The goverment has taught its employees the ways of BANDITRY.
HAve a nice day :)
 
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