Citizenship - Was advised not to leave Argentina

[Lanick]

There's more to this story, as naturalized citizens must swear an oath in person at the court. Once you have the citizenship certificate, it is indeed possible to apply for a DNI and passport at the embassy. Though it will take much longer to get the documents compared to doing it at Renaper.

Lots of incorrect and misleading info in this thread overall. The long and short of it is, it must be unquestionable that Argentina is your true home. There is no strict number of days that are a breakpoint between where they decide if you qualify or not, but the longer you're outside the higher your chances of getting a denial.

The days of remote applications are totally over, you must continue living in the country after you've applied. They are now going through your presence in the country with a fine toothed comb, and if it's not to their satisfaction you will be denied citizenship. Example of someone below rejected for insufficient presence.

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But tho doesn’t mention the status of the applicant. Even a student visa holder can apply for citizenship after 2 years. Or an overstayer tourist! What I was referring to is a person holding permanent residency with an Argentine spouse and kids. That is a bit different. If you’re married to an Argentine, you don’t even need to wait for 2 years.

 

[FLEggs]

I think this is similar in the US...you want a lawyer that can get you in front of the right judges. In the US some immigration judges have 90% approval for asylum seekers and others like 5%. Smart people move cities if they need to. I am sure certain jurisdictions here are better than others and a good lawyer would know that data. I recently listened to a podcast and a digital nomad got his Arg citizenship at 1.9 years. He had obvious income flow and good history. This could all change but that was recent.

 

[camel]

Wait, that's wild. Which court did you file in? And what do you mean, sneak out? I've taken the boat to Montevideo and they check you leaving/coming back in iirc.


This is a completely different universe of scenarios from my life. I am single, childless, very gay, and planning to spend most of my time in Argentina.

I was in Capital Federal... maybe the court 10? I never snuck out myself.... it's much trickier than just leaving normally because Migraciones logs every time you leave or enter. So you would have to figure out the logistics of leaving Argentina bypassing Migraciones, probably to some bordering country. Then you probably want to leave that bordering country normally, flying to wherever you want to actually go, but you probably can't do this on your main passport because there may be a stamp, etc. At least these days I think Argentina no longer stamps your passport when you leave. But you'd still have to figure out how to explain to the next country how/when you arrived there. It is possible (people have done it, just not me).. and it may involve getting a 2nd passport (the US will issue 2nd passports in certain cases - google it).

I'm not giving you advice to do this, but I am saying that if the Argentina courts arbitrarily enforce unpublished rules like you mentioned, you need to adapt to that. In other words, stupid (arbitrary) rules require solutions.

 

[MarshallE]

But tho doesn’t mention the status of the applicant. Even a student visa holder can apply for citizenship after 2 years. Or an overstayer tourist! What I was referring to is a person holding permanent residency with an Argentine spouse and kids. That is a bit different. If you’re married to an Argentine, you don’t even need to wait for 2 years.

This particular individual had a baby born in Argentina which gives them the right to apply for citizenship immediately without waiting 2 years first. But like I mentioned earlier, the days of "remote" applications are over. You cannot file for citizenship and then leave. You must live in the country in a duration to the courts satisfaction. Otherwise they'll deny you even if you had a right to apply for citizenship (2 years prior residence, a baby, Argentine wife etc)