CK's tantrum in perspective

[Guillo]

Is Lucas an "implant" by the K's Government, to sway the view of the ex.pats, in the most incredible nation on Earth?

Nah, I think he's just plain dumb.

 

[Guillo]

Ask a KK supporter: qué carajo es el "modelo"???
They talk about it all the time, but no one can answer the question.

"El modelo" is: Stay in power so you don't end up in jail for increasing your fortune 500% per year.
Everything is valid, buying diputados and senadores, overpaying for "obra publica" so the same companies can then buy unfriendly media for them, and a long etcetera.

 

[marksoc]

First: I dig the Maradona hand of God thing! That made me laugh, thanks.

The Modelo: the most important thing about the model is that is NOT the previous one.

It is a very unfocused industrializing policy based on maintaining a certain exchange rate and anti-ciclycal fiscal policy (not sure!). Plus some important choices in welfare, plus an emphasis in human rights, plus a return to politics as a way of change things. These things would not happen in a government of the opposition.

 

[Guillo]

Translated:
We dont know what it means, its just what we do.
What we do: Short term measures, uncoordinated, unprepared, improvised, uncontrolled to allow for the needed corruption to make the Ks richer and help finance the campaign (everything works, even drug lords money laundering)

 

[dr__dawggy]

Translated:
We dont know what it means, its just what we do.
What we do: Short term measures, uncoordinated, unprepared, improvised, uncontrolled to allow for the needed corruption to make the Ks richer and help finance the campaign (everything works, even drug lords money laundering)

The moral justification for the "needed corruption" is that the K's are less corrupt and have grown less wealthy than Menem. So things must be better.

Meanwhile, Chile and Brazil continue to widen the economic gap....

 

[bigbadwolf]

2) Foreign investment has been detrimental for the Argentinian economy in the near past. More money did go out that came in, you would not expect a foregin company to keep its profits inside Argentina,don´t you? If they created jobs or brought technology to the country we can gain something, but witness Aerolineas, Telefonica, Telecom, trains, etc etc etc. We lost jobs and money because of these foreign investors.

Not just Argentina: it seems that everywhere foreign investors pull out much more than they put in, aided and abetted by local businessmen and politicians. To put it politely, it's a mixed blessing.

 

[dr__dawggy]

Ufff....


3) Computers: I travelled in Europe and SE Asia. A generic computer bought in Galeria Jardin costs more or less the same (really,try to buy a computer in France). Apple shiny things cost more in Argentina. Buy generic. Yep, plasma and LCDs are more expensive. I don´t really care, a generic Pentium has the same educational uses than an state-of-the-art MacBook, it is only less shiny. Not every country must be gadget-consumption based as the US. If we get money from middle-high class people trying to import an I-Pad, it is ok with me. But again, I am a "socialist"

Computers are one thing. Wine is another.

My friends in Argentina always want me to bring them gadgets from Best Buy, towels and sheets from Bed, Bath and Beyond, their favorite snack foods from Safeway, clothes from Lands End and other stuff that costs more, is poorly made or is not available in Argentina. This, I get.

What leaves me scratching my head though is why a bottle of Malbec costs more in Argentina than in the US? I may start bringing my own supply of Luigi Bosca or Carmelo Patti when I return to BA. Something aint right when a bottle of wine from a vineyard in Lujan de Cuyo is shipped half way around world and still costs less than at Jumbo in Palermo.

 

[Guillo]

The moral justification for the "needed corruption" is that the K's are less corrupt and have grown less wealthy than Menem. So things must be better.

Meanwhile, Chile and Brazil continue to widen the economic gap....

Their usual excuse is "everyone steals". Meantime, hundreds and hundreds of millions of pesos are diverted to pay for corruption, while up north babies still die of hunger. There's some "progresismo" for you all.

No wait, the babies dying of hunger must be something invented by the monopolistic media!!!

 

[dr__dawggy]

Ufff....



2) Foreign investment has been detrimental for the Argentinian economy in the near past. More money did go out that came in, you would not expect a foregin company to keep its profits inside Argentina,don´t you? If they created jobs or brought technology to the country we can gain something, but witness Aerolineas, Telefonica, Telecom, trains, etc etc etc. We lost jobs and money because of these foreign investors.

Note to Cabrera and Lucas: Not one of these public utilities was sold to a company from the United States. No way you can blame us for profiting from the privatization.

 

[ben]

Note to Cabrera and Lucas: Not one of these public utilities was sold to a company from the United States. No way you can blame us for profiting from the privatization.

It behooves you not to underestimate these two oracles of fair and just government. They will find a way...