Corona Virus May Hit Argentina Hard

[camberiu]

Riots are breaking out in Santiago due to food shortages. I fear lockdowns are simply not sustainable, specially in less wealthy countries.

 

[artisans]

In case you missed the news, cuarentena extended and other related changes to life as we know it in CABA.

Government extends quarantine for 15 more days amid rise in infections

President Fernández announces Argentina will extend government's mandatory social isolation until June 7, amid an acceleration in the spread of the new Covid-19 coronavirus.

www.batimes.com.ar

 

[Bajo_cero2]

The problem with basing those graphs on official Covid-19 figures is that countries are testing and counting differently. Plus the graphs on that website are over a week out of date.

The only way to compare countries' performance will be by excess mortality, but those statistics are even more out of date, the best I found is https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441 but it doesn't include Argentina.

I don find it accurate. Labor, driving, saturday night at Villa Gessell with rugbiers deaths are zero now because people stays at home.
The only way to have an idea is on closed cases. Death, recovered and a rule of 3.
At https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ they give you this info.

 

[camberiu]

Massive anti-lockdown protests in Spain right now.

 

[FrankPintor]

Has anyone downloaded the "Cuidar" application to their phone? I did, it asks for a photo of my DNI (foreign and expired, waiting on a new one), says there's an error, and when I try to enter the information manually it says the DNI and process number are not associated.

Just to follow up on this, about a week ago I got an SMS with the "numero de tramite" for my new DNI (applied for in November last year, this is par for the course...).

I entered this number in the Cuidar app, and also in the Correos DNI tracker every day without getting a result until today, when I got a hit! The DNI has been received by the post office, and it's in a processing centre today.

It will go to our old address of course, but never mind, maybe we can recover it from there, or if not from the office in Jujuy.

I was even able to enter my details in the Cuidar app (which I believe is now mandatory if you want to apply for a salvoconducto). Amazing!! I guess people with expired DNIs are screwed though.

 

[Dougie]

Looking back on a few of the pages of the 82...there are so many horrible predictions and bad takes on this thread. BAExpats (myself included) should stop predicting anything - the dollar, viruses, political outcomes.

The first response to the thread is calling the original poster a racist for pondering whether Argentina will get hit hard by a virus because of it's connection to the country of origin of the virus. It was liked by 15+ posters.

Funny how so many thought this was some racist right wing scare tactic from Trump and others. Now the complaint is that Trump didn't take it serious enough. I'm not defending Trump, but interesting how the politics of it evolved.

 

[Ries]

There is no doubt that, early on, I made some predictions on this thread that turned out to be wrong. But we have seen no evidence that chinese immigrants, or travellers from China, had anything to do with the majority of cases in Argentina. So, it was kinda racist.

 

[jeff1234]

There is no doubt that, early on, I made some predictions on this thread that turned out to be wrong. But we have seen no evidence that chinese immigrants, or travellers from China, had anything to do with the majority of cases in Argentina. So, it was kinda racist.

Or it was an early attempt at contact tracing. A good test for 'racism' might be.. would the original postings have been any different if the sick people had just come from the Vatican?

 

[Dougie]

There is no doubt that, early on, I made some predictions on this thread that turned out to be wrong. But we have seen no evidence that chinese immigrants, or travellers from China, had anything to do with the majority of cases in Argentina. So, it was kinda racist.

I'm just as bad at predicting anything as the next person. Just thought it was interesting to see how the collective thought process played out now that we know everything that we do.

In hindsight, the specific cases in Argentina probably did not start with a traveller or immigrant from China. However, at the time of the post when travel between Argentina and China was still open, I don't see how pondering whether a connection between the geographic origin of the virus where cases were still quite active at the time, and those who are traveling from that region and potentially propagating its spread is kinda racist. Curious how you see it otherwise? Maybe I'm missing something.

One of the reasons that Northern Italy was hit so hard was because of it's commercial ties to Wuhan. So there was a region where this possibility that the original poster brought up did in fact come true.

I don't think any reasonable person would blame the common person of Chinese nationality for the virus. They are victims of this tragedy just as much as anyone else.

 

[Renzi]

I'm just as bad at predicting anything as the next person. Just thought it was interesting to see how the collective thought process played out now that we know everything that we do.

In hindsight, the specific cases in Argentina probably did not start with a traveller or immigrant from China. However, at the time of the post when travel between Argentina and China was still open, I don't see how pondering whether a connection between the geographic origin of the virus where cases were still quite active at the time, and those who are traveling from that region and potentially propagating its spread is kinda racist. Curious how you see it otherwise? Maybe I'm missing something.

One of the reasons that Northern Italy was hit so hard was because of it's commercial ties to Wuhan. So there was a region where this possibility that the original poster brought up did in fact come true.

I don't think any reasonable person would blame the common person of Chinese nationality for the virus. They are victims of this tragedy just as much as anyone else.

"The Chinaman is not the issue, here."