Covid Vaccination Argentina

[gracielle]

23 Sept 2021

Llegó un cargamento de más de 800 mil dosis de la vacuna de AstraZeneca donadas por España

Arribaron este jueves por la mañana al aeropuerto de Ezeiza, mediante el mecanismo Covax.

www.clarin.com

A shipment of more than 800,000 doses of AstraZeneca donated by Spain arrived here this morning. They were donated through the Covax Mechanism, the global initiative for equitable access to vaccines....

 

[antipodean]

When the US finally authorizes as valid for tourists and US citizens/residents who were vaccinated abroad with Oxford-AstraZeneca, the requirement will be the 2 doses of the same vaccine as it does now for Pfizer and Moderna. As of now, in CABA you will not be able to get a "second" shot of A/Z because you were already inoculated with the 2-shot combination...Sputnik V + A/Z. Perhaps it may occur sometime next year when ARG decides it is necessary to provide a "booster" shot. But in cases such as yours, which of the 2 vaccines will be given as a booster? Both doses of A/Z contain the same components.

I was vaccinated here with the 2 doses (1st one in July and second one in Sept) of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. I plan to be inoculated again with 2 doses of Moderna when I travel to the US next month. So I will have two separate certificates, each with 2 doses of the same vaccine, so I can travel freely worldwide.

Fauci: AstraZeneca vaccine should be no bar for travellers to the US | The National

Oxford-made vaccine has not been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration

www.thenationalnews.com

US will accept tourists with AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, Anthony Fauci suggests

The United States is poised to recognise the Oxford-Astrazeneca vaccine for visitors when it changes its travel rules, the country’s chief Covid advisor has said.Dr Anthony Fauci, who heads the US response, said he anticipated that it would be accepted among travellers despite not being used on the

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[gracielle]

22 Sept 2021 by Apoorva Mandavilli

Moderna vs. Pfizer: Both Knockouts, but One Seems to Have the Edge (Published 2021)

A series of studies found that the Moderna vaccine seemed to be more protective as the months passed than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Here’s why.

www.nytimes.com

 

[gracielle]

Fauci: AstraZeneca vaccine should be no bar for travellers to the US | The National

Oxford-made vaccine has not been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration

www.thenationalnews.com

US will accept tourists with AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, Anthony Fauci suggests

The United States is poised to recognise the Oxford-Astrazeneca vaccine for visitors when it changes its travel rules, the country’s chief Covid advisor has said.Dr Anthony Fauci, who heads the US response, said he anticipated that it would be accepted among travellers despite not being used on the

www.thetimes.co.uk

Re: my post....I plan to be inoculated again with 2 doses of Moderna when I travel to the US next month. In my case, it's strictly a personal choice for additional protection and out of convenience for travel anywhere. The 2 doses of Moderna will be my "booster" for 2022.

 

[gracielle]

22 Sept 2021 by Fabiola Czubaj

Premio Hipócrates: el máximo galardón de la Academia Nacional de Medicina fue para Fernán Quirós

El jurado, integrado por los expresidentes de la institución, valoró la trayectoria del ministro en la práctica clínica, la docencia y la investigación

www.lanacion.com.ar

Hippocrates Award: the silver medal, the highest accolade from the Academia Nacional de Medicina went to Fernán Quirós. The jury, made up of the former presidents of the institution, valued his career in clinical practice, teaching and research. It is the most important award granted by the ANM in its 2021 edition to the current City of BA Minister of Health. The decision of the jury of the Academy which recognizes outstanding trajectory in different fields of medicine (from basic research to clinical practice), was reportedly to have been unanimous. Each year, as explained by the president of the ANM, Antonio de los Santos, the award "poses a difficult task for the jury, which is to decide between the most distinguished candidates in the different disciplines." The debate is defined by consensus. This year, it was the turn of the "Doctors of the different branches of Medicine" area. The candidates are nominated by the plenary of academics.

Criteria...."This year, by order, was to recognize the work in clinical medicine," explained De los Santos, who chairs the jury. Fernán Quirós was unanimously elected, who apart from the public performance that he assumed in recent times, has an extraordinary career, which began early on in his student years at the UBA Faculty of Medicine as a teaching assistant to the Chair of the Dept. of Physiology, when he wrote a manual on functional exploration of the respiratory system that is still valid today”. He is also recognized as an outstanding specialist in internal medicine and a teacher at the University Institute of the Hospital Italiano, a healthcare center where he carried out a large part of his career and applied computer technology to develop systems that currently facilitate access to information and communication and evidence-based decision making. He comes from the field of clinical medicine, he practiced teaching and basic research that applies to health sanitary issues, but he did not stop using the smock or the stethoscope. In medicine, on the one hand there is the statistical significance of the information and, on the other, the clinical value. To be able to combine them in decision-making, you have to be good at both. And this coincided in the trajectory valued this year ”.

Dr. Quirós graduated with a Diploma of Honor from the UBA in 1987. His specialty is internal medicine. He continued his training in computer science applied to health and health management. He was deputy medical director of Strategic Planning at the Hospital Italiano, where he also directed the IT Department. He is a full professor of Human Physiology at the University Institute of that hospital. He coordinated the AMBA Health Network before assuming as Minister of Health of the City of BA, on December 10, 2019.

 

[lunar]

Should I try to get another dose of AstraZeneca to be fully vaccinated with a fairly universal vaccine?
If I already have the second dose of AstraZeneca do I need the first dose, another second or the third?

I believe if you do it out of order (first get vaccinated by the second doze, then by the first), then you will not be fully vaccinated.

I plan to be inoculated again with 2 doses of Moderna when I travel to the US next month. In my case, it's strictly a personal choice for additional protection and out of convenience for travel anywhere. The 2 doses of Moderna will be my "booster" for 2022.

I understand that this is a personal choice, but please at least ask for professional medical advice (not "my friends work in a big medical center" type). Consequences of multiple vaccinations within a limited period of time are not clear at the moment. People are not getting 4 regular flu vaccine shots in a year for a reason. Now it looks like everybody suddenly believes that the more coronavirus vaccines you get, the better. This may be dangerous.

May be at least it makes sense to wait until delta-specific variants of vaccines are developed/available.

 

[antipodean]

Covid: Carla Vizzotti, Tierra del Fuego es la primera provincia en alcanzar la inmunidad de rebaño

La ministra de Salud precisó que Tierra del Fuego ya logró vacunar al 93% de su población mayor de 18 años con primeras dosis y al 72% con el esquema completo

www.lanacion.com.ar

Vizzotti announces that Tierra del Fuego is the first province to now have achieved "heard immunity".

 

[Alby]

I believe if you do it out of order (first get vaccinated by the second doze, then by the first), then you will not be fully vaccinated.



I understand that this is a personal choice, but please at least ask for professional medical advice (not "my friends work in a big medical center" type). Consequences of multiple vaccinations within a limited period of time are not clear at the moment. People are not getting 4 regular flu vaccine shots in a year for a reason. Now it looks like everybody suddenly believes that the more coronavirus vaccines you get, the better. This may be dangerous.

May be at least it makes sense to wait until delta-specific variants of vaccines are developed/available.

This goes to the very heart of the problem facing people who want to travel to, for example, their home country, where the vaccine they may have taken in their second country is either (i) not approved in their home country or (ii) is approved but the individual is unable to satisfy the home authorities that they have taken it (e.g., when they present a vaccination record issued in Spanish from Argentina). What are these people supposed to do in order to access services and venues only available at home to the vaccinated? Take another course of the vaccine, not because their body needs it (they already have in it their system) but because a bureaucratic system wasn't properly designed to recognize the vaccine they already have? Ultimately, vaccine passports are going to prove unworkable and will be quietly dropped, but in the meantime all kinds of iniquitous situations and anomalies are going to arise. I'm staying put here until things settle down and governments realize what a bureaucratic nightmare they are creating.

 

[FrankPintor]

Vizzotti aseguró que Tierra del Fuego es la primera provincia en alcanzar la inmunidad de rebaño

La ministra de Salud participó del anuncio durante una conferencia en Ushuaia. Según datos oficiales, el 72% de la población provincial mayor de 18 años tiene el esquema completo y el 93% recibió una dosis

www.infobae.com

It's more good news, but it's not herd immunity. According to official data, 72% of the provincial population over 18 years of age has the complete scheme and 93% received a dose. If the general population is taken into account, including minors, coverage is lower: of the total population of 177 thousand inhabitants, 71% have at least one dose and 56% have a complete scheme.

More info on herd immunity here: https://timetoherd.com/methodology "Infectious disease experts estimate that immunity to Covid-19 in 70-85% of a population would be sufficient for reaching herd immunity". Tierra del Fuego has only 56% with presumed immunity, so there's still quite a way to go. Note that even 70% immunity might not be enough if delta hits.

 

[Somewhereinba]

This goes to the very heart of the problem facing people who want to travel to, for example, their home country, where the vaccine they may have taken in their second country is either (i) not approved in their home country or (ii) is approved but the individual is unable to satisfy the home authorities that they have taken it (e.g., when they present a vaccination record issued in Spanish from Argentina). What are these people supposed to do in order to access services and venues only available at home to the vaccinated? Take another course of the vaccine, not because their body needs it (they already have in it their system) but because a bureaucratic system wasn't properly designed to recognize the vaccine they already have? Ultimately, vaccine passports are going to prove unworkable and will be quietly dropped, but in the meantime all kinds of iniquitous situations and anomalies are going to arise. I'm staying put here until things settle down and governments realize what a bureaucratic nightmare they are creating.

This was always going to be a problem and I called it from the start. It's turned into vaccine wars - country a doesn't accept country b's vaccine - even though the most protected are actually those who have had covid. They are 6-10X more safe than fully vaxxed individuals (who would have thought the bodys immune system would do a better job than a vaccine). I don't see any solution except to remove the restrictions, as mentioned how is country a going to 'validate' the certificate from argentina written in spanish when you are trying to go into a restaurant lol...