Expat Deported At Ezeiza

[French jurist]

But...those people only come to exploit Argentina's resources and its citizens.

Ah, finally you see the truth! Tomorrow you'll like soccer!

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Ah, finally you see the truth! Tomorrow you'll like soccer!

Though far too many people OD on it, soccer may still involve a lower risk than Ambien and other similar soporifics.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Pretty sure that's not a legal status Suffice to say that the "permatourist" loophole is very well known, and yes, migraciones knows all about it too, and as of 2014, the law hasn't been changed to limit a tourist stay to 180 days maximum in a year. That can/may change at any time in the future but as of now, it hasn't.

Of course if one is living long-term, one can/should normalize their status but many people don't either b/c they can't or don't want to.

Loopholes doesn't exist in this legal system.

Immigration officers has freedom to let you in or not, and they just were nice, nobody fooled them.

However, in 2010 the decree 616/2010 explicit that to "permaturist" is illegal.

 

[citygirl]

Bajo- while we may disagree on many things, I certainly wouldn't question your expertise in gaining citizenship for foreigners. However, my point is that the law does not forbid someone for being in the country for more than 180 days in a calendar year without a resident visa as it does in many other countries such as Brazil.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

The decree forbids the improper use of i-94.

 

[Arronius]

To clarify for everyone: I am an American. I work freelance for companies in Mexico (don't get me started on that tax situation...it's taken me this entire year to try to figure it out because no one and I mean no one can tell me how to proceed, including the IRS). I actually called and talked to someone in the Argentine consulate in the U.S. (New York, I think) in December when I was preparing to move here, hoping to initiate a DNI process. I was told I can't get one if I'm not working for a company in Argentina, at least not one that would permit me to work here anyway. Argentina, furthermore from what I can tell, does not have tax treaties with the US or with Mexico. Guess if the heat gets too hot I'll just have to smooch this place goodbye, but as I said, I was assuming all was on the up and up with the Colonia run and such. Have met many other foreigners here doing what I'm doing, so I doubt they have DNIs either.

 

[French jurist]

At the same time, an overstayer won't be automatically detained and deported. If that was occuring, it would have made the headlines already (like "25 Americans/Europeans detained & deported in the past week").

The fact you arrive by a plane + the fact you can be sent back immediately in your country make it easier, I guess.
Would be more difficult crossing Colonia after spending 2 or 3 years here & getting detained and deported within 2 hours.

I guess some details cannot be explained on the forum too (?). No need to get suddenly scared, but right time to put things in order since risks seem higher indeed.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

I think the perm tourist benefit/drain is a delicate balance. Their spend is not going to significantly move the needle, that said in certain zones of the city there are benefits in terms of the money they spend in bars and restaurants. Balanced against that are the fact that they are probably short in the tax paid, IVA really doesnt stack up against income and gains tax the rest of us pay.

Overall the result is probably financially neutral (spend vs currency speculation, albeit an insignificant part of either market) and culturally positive.

I imagine Colonia Expressare happy enough!

 

[Somewhereinba]

Most tourists don't quality for any of the resident visas because they are here less than 6 months of the year and work overseas. This is how it was explained by a lawyer who represents players for a big football club here. If you got married to an Argentine you could get it via that way. However a lot of countries don't allow dual citizenship with Argentina. I still haven't read how many times the guy who got deported had overstayed his visa?

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

If you marry you don't need to renounce your citizenship, you become a permanent resident with a DNI and an inherited allegiance to your father in laws football team. You don't become a citizen, unless you want to.