Expat Deported At Ezeiza

[citygirl]

If you do want to stay here for more than 6 months you should presumably get a paper allowing you to stay (VISA, residency, citizenship). If you are here more than 6 months as a tourist, you are outlaw.

Pretty sure that's not a legal status Suffice to say that the "permatourist" loophole is very well known, and yes, migraciones knows all about it too, and as of 2014, the law hasn't been changed to limit a tourist stay to 180 days maximum in a year. That can/may change at any time in the future but as of now, it hasn't.

Of course if one is living long-term, one can/should normalize their status but many people don't either b/c they can't or don't want to.

 

[Rich One]

This deportation event must have triggered a lot of alarms and red lights on the Expat community. Weddings, immigration applications, return tickets, purchases of household effects, renewal on leases, home purchasses, etc

 

[Chet]

My assumption was of course he actually worked overseas, so my question still stands. When do you become a permatourist if you are spending less than half the year in Argentina and working abroad, surely just because you have a lot of stamps is not enough of a justification? I'm sure they can calculate how many days you were there... I think one reason this guy got deported was the fact he had overstayed one too many times, hopefully Bajo or the guys friend can clear this part up.

I am wondering about this too. Seems like a lot of people getting concerned and making pronouncements when we know very little.
Another thing I am curious about is what seems to be a negative attitude about perma-tourists. This method for long stays is used in a lot of the world, not just Argentina. Generally the attitude is that you bring money into the country, pay a lot of taxes (mostly indirect ) and don't place any burden on the country so whats the problem?

 

[Montauk_Project]

@Chet I think the difference is between staying over a few times and then having years worth of stamps in your passport showing that you are really "living" in Argentina.
(Personally, I think all borders should be open to people to cross as they wish).

 

[French jurist]

It's true that indirect taxes > direct taxes (in France it's a 2x difference).

At the same time, Argentines have been paying indirect taxes for decades when a foreigner arrives. Here the healthcare system is very similar to the French one: no matter who you are, your income, you'll get treated for free (in France, many African comes to get treated = a 700.000 USD treatment? No problem).

Argentina should apply the same program Chile did (giving a financial incentive + support + residence to foreigners with a background solid enough, who have a business project, etc.). This would gain support from the whole Argentine population.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Argentina should apply the same program Chile did (giving a financial incentive + support + residence to foreigners with a background solid enough, who have a business project, etc.). This would gain support from the whole Argentine population.

But...those people only come to exploit Argentina's resources and its citizens.

 

[Joe]

This is a case of the chickens coming home to roost. And by chickens I mean vultures.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

This is a case of the chickens coming home to roost. And by chickens I mean vultures.

I have eaten a penguin egg omelet, but not yet one from vulture's eggs.

 

[citygirl]

Frenchie, I'd be curious how many "perma-tourists" utilize the public healthcare system in Argentina. I don't really know anyone anymore as 99% o the people that I knew who qualified as that have since left Arg but at least back in the day, pretty much no one I knew used the public system. All either paid out of pocket for consults with private doctors or had private health care.

ETA - Totally agree with the rest about offering incentives for people to come and start small businesses. Of course I think every country should do that!

 

[French jurist]

Frenchie, I'd be curious how many "perma-tourists" utilize the public healthcare system in Argentina. I don't really know anyone anymore as 99% o the people that I knew who qualified as that have since left Arg but at least back in the day, pretty much no one I knew used the public system. All either paid out of pocket for consults with private doctors or had private health care.

ETA - Totally agree with the rest about offering incentives for people to come and start small businesses. Of course I think every country should do that!

I have no idea. I never used it myself.