Expat Deported At Ezeiza

[Somewhereinba]

You are not a tourist.

Apply for residency.

Apply for citizenship.

You do work here.

He said he doesn't work in Argentina. If he spends 5 months of the year in Argentina and 7 months in the UK does that mean he is still permatourist and can get deported for having too many stamps?

 

[Girino]

He said he doesn't work in Argentina.

Actually, he said:

[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)](Not retired, but don't work here...[/background][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]work remotely abroad.[/background][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]) [/background]

Which means: I sit with my computer in Buenos Aires and I work for a company called XX in the US.
Technically, he is working in Argentina for a foreign customer/employer.

Think about it this way: if the US company sent him to BsAs to work remotely, they would have needed a working VISA for him. In the same way, when an independent worker moves to BsAs autonomously to work remotely, the situation is not any different - he comes here to work.

Now, it is true that "working remotely" may also mean "Every 4 months I move to a different country and I keep working for XX in the US - then where should I pay my taxes?". The answer is: where the center of your business is (where you have a house in your name/bills/bank accounts/family).

If you spend in Argentina most of the year (183 days or more), you reside here and should pay your taxes here.

Now, why do people insist they live in their home country, when nowadays they just go there on holiday for a few weeks?

1) They know that tax system better
2) That tax system is utterly convenient and simple, while the Argentinian you most likely will need an accountant to figure out your taxes
3) The US taxes your worldwide income, so you'd have to file there anyway (but you should declare yourself a citizen living abroad and pay very little, reporting your income and taxes paid abroad)
4) They genuinely think this is just temporary, but it ends up dragging for years

We had a thread this year from a citizen of Ireland, who has been here for 4 years, but that kept paying his taxes in Ireland. Guess what? AFIP knocked on his door and pretended their share.
That said, I don't know about the tax system in Argentina (I am new here), but in my home country, paying a fine is cheaper than paying taxes... and this is why we have been having tax evasion in full blown for ages.

 

[citygirl]

If you spend in Argentina most of the year (183 days or more), you reside here and should pay your taxes here.

Actually, unless you are a legal resident with all your documents, there literally is no way you can pay taxes here even if you want to.

 

[French jurist]

Actually, unless you are a legal resident with all your documents, there literally is no way you can pay taxes here even if you want to.

When I was a permatourist, I went to the AFIP in Pilar & told the lady clerk about my situation, and that I wanted to pay taxes. She was quite confused & made a call. A manager came and took me to his office, I explained the situation again and the guy (working for the AFIP) replied to me something along the lines "but why do you want to pay taxes, no sea boludo!"

Surreal (in France, the local AFIP goes even after the prostitutes, although it's an illegal activity)

 

[Girino]

Actually, unless you are a legal resident with all your documents, there literally is no way you can pay taxes here even if you want to.

If you do want to stay here for more than 6 months you should presumably get a paper allowing you to stay (VISA, residency, citizenship). If you are here more than 6 months as a tourist, you are outlaw.

 

[Girino]

When I was a permatourist, I went to the AFIP in Pilar & told the lady clerk about my situation, and that I wanted to pay taxes. She was quite confused & made a call. A manager came and took me to his office, I explained the situation again and the guy (working for the AFIP) replied to me something along the lines "but why do you want to pay taxes, no sea boludo!"

Surreal (in France, the local AFIP goes even after the prostitutes, although it's an illegal activity)

Sounds too familiar!

 

[Crema Americana]

If you do want to stay here for more than 6 months you should presumably get a paper allowing you to stay (VISA, residency, citizenship). If you are here more than 6 months as a tourist, you are outlaw.

In light of this information... perhaps we should rename the site from BAExpats to BAOutlaws!

 

[Bajo_cero2]

In light of this information... perhaps we should rename the site from BAExpats to BAOutlaws!

That's more accurate!

 

[Somewhereinba]

My assumption was of course he actually worked overseas, so my question still stands. When do you become a permatourist if you are spending less than half the year in Argentina and working abroad, surely just because you have a lot of stamps is not enough of a justification? I'm sure they can calculate how many days you were there... I think one reason this guy got deported was the fact he had overstayed one too many times, hopefully Bajo or the guys friend can clear this part up.

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

Wow, all recorded forum visualisation from my memory is all off. Too many people changing the avatars or handle names are to be
reprimanded! 1st lost nice pic of my dear "ffenchie" to some inspector, 2nd no more nice Italiana but diff names. No more flirting!